Chinese Economics Thread

hullopilllw

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They might be put on the list, but they are not being taken out. HSBC is really big in cross country trade. RMB license are given to HSBC. China know that HSBC is being forced in between 2 major super power and will cut them some slack (unlike US where they fined them a lot, but HSBC was warned no less than 3 times to clear their act before being fined). HSBC would have to adjust their management style to handle both countries.

In the past, HSBC just have to worry about US. In the present, HSBC would have to worry about China and other upcoming big power and adjust their strategy.

How much of HSBC's profit are generated from US vs China ?
 

ahho

Junior Member
None. Most of HSBC profit is made in Asia, but that also mean foreign companies would use HSBC to do business in Asia.

The problem with HSBC or any global bank is the USD license. US is being stupid in weaponizing the US dollar. Why not let your enemy use your USD, I mean they are literally supporting the US economy and US can keep printing USD.
 

horse

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One thing to note is that the actions of the USA has progressively become more and more self defeating (I mean Trump is egging on kidnappers just this morning, in regards to there attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan for crying out loud). Really, its like they want to depopulate the USA along with bankrupting it at the same time with the way they are dividing and conquering the nation (I could understand if they are doing this China but why are they targeting themselves for the most part). But I guess they are beyond reason at this point, the only problem is that they haven't going into full collapse mode yet since if any of these things happened to an average country, they would have been doomed already. I guess they bigger the are, the hard they fall but I guess it also means they long it takes for them to fall as well
What happens next to America, we do not know.

The can collapse or make a full recovery from what ails them.

You are right that they are acting really weird.

This Ant Financial story, and how the United States wants to prevent it in some way, to prevent the IPO, that is just bizarre.

The Ant Financial IPO will be done in Shanghai and Hong Kong. The leg for the latter, they have Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley all involved in it. This means like Mnuchin and Paulson are involved in it. The White House staff (past and present) is underwriting this deal, lol.

That means the United States government is looking into and threatening to take action against Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley.

Be my guest.

That is all the CCP will say.

:p

Also, we have to remember the usual American complaints.

They always complaining they want more reciprocity and a fair level playing field.

Here their financial firms are given a big piece of the business to the world's largest IPO in history.

And here the United States government wants to derail it in some way.

There is only one proper response from the CCP.

GTFO of here!

Shut up!

Pathetic! Pitiful! Shut up!

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

:D:D
 
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Come on guys don't feed the troll Wasting you time and energy trying to talk senses in his head He is beyond curable unabashed slave There more important news in the world like this one old news but still relevant Now should be even larger percentage
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Petroyuan’s stature grows on Shanghai exchange, helping world’s largest energy importer cut dependence
  • Crude oil contracts traded in Shanghai accounted for 10.5 per cent of the global volume at the start of June compared to 6.2 per cent in the second quarter of 2018
  • Traders appear to embrace yuan oil futures contracts, pricing them similarly to the Brent and WTI benchmarks, says analyst
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China’s plan to boost the status of its
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through the trading of yuan-denominated crude oil futures appears to be bearing fruit as the contracts grab market share from dollar-denominated products traded in hubs like New York and London.

According to Bloomberg Intelligence, the volume of crude oil contracts traded on the Shanghai International Energy Exchange (INE) accounted for 10.5 per cent of the global volume at the start of June compared to 6.2 per cent in the second quarter of 2018. The average daily trading volume of yuan-denominated crude oil contracts this month more than doubled to 162,053 lots compared to the daily average of 63,238 lots in 2019.

Analysts say that yuan’s use will increase alongside trading volumes on the INE rise as China spearheads a move to revive economic growth after the Covid-19 pandemic eases.

China has been striving to accelerate the pace of yuan’s internationalisation by liberalising the capital and futures markets over the past decade. As the world’s biggest net importer of crude oil, Beijing hoped to attract more international investors to participate in trading of the contracts on the INE, a move to widen the use of yuan in settlement of the most important source of energy.

“Traders appear to embrace yuan oil futures contracts, pricing them similarly to the Brent and West Texas Intermediate (WTI) benchmarks, signalling China’s burgeoning impact on global oil demand growth,” Henik Fung, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence wrote in a research report. “Increasing worldwide political conflict could limit Chinese investment, convincing domestic investors to embrace INE than New York Mercantile Exchange (Nymex) and Intercontinental Exchange (ICE).”

In March 2018, China launched the
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in Shanghai, inviting foreign traders for the first time to operate on the mainland’s commodity futures market. The contracts were designed to help China gain pricing power and internationalise the yuan, at a time when relations between Beijing and Washington were starting to strain.

However, the move was eyed with suspicion on the international oil market as there were some well-established global benchmarks, such as WTI and Brent, traded on Nymex and ICE, respectively. Crude oil sold in Asia is mainly priced against the Dubai, Oman and dated Brent benchmarks or Oman crude futures on the Dubai Mercantile Exchange.
 

Nobonita Barua

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I'm sorry. I seem too negative at times. I simply strongly think China should put more effort into seeking better relations with the West and understanding perceptions of it abroad. I don't understand why it has to pick one fight after another all the time. Yes, China is a big country but it's just one country. 84% of the world population is outside China and that share will only grow as China's birthrate plummets. Having good relations with other countries in this globalized world is important, and as Xi Jinping said, the trend of globalization can't be reversed. Politics is at the root of all this. It's a too way street. Just as the world should better understand China, China should better understand the world.
Let me get hold of this.


You are telling me China should put more effort to seek better relation with West by letting West build military bases like Japan did & putting command-control of PLA in hands of US like South Korea did, because china's birth rate is plummeting despite having bigger population than Entire West combined while West is busy making sure the "rights" of abortion is properly protected .


Ohkayy
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nugroho

Junior Member
Chinese liberals like you demonstrate your unwillingness to adapt your way of thinking because you have bought the Western frame of mind completely (as demonstrated by your lack of balanced positions). It is no wonder you guys lost control of the country and the internal narrative.

Is he Chinese ( enough )???
 
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