Chinese Economics Thread

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Deleted member 15887

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India? A lot of companies have tried that and failed. They don't have the infrastructure and the bureaucracy is a mess. They are also far from all the other component manufacturers. Why do you think China succeeded where Mexico did not in the first place? It's right next to Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea. Vietnam might do, but India won't.

We're always on the cusp of automation of something or another. Japan had the same issue. South Korea had the same issue. That's why I said. China needs to manufacture its own machine tools so they can go up the ladder of production faster than anyone else.
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This is concerning. India will manufacture $140 billion USD in mobile phones for the next 5 years. Think about how much that might harm and take away from China's smartphone manufacturing industry.
 

AssassinsMace

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It's all a game of chicken. They don't sell to China, they lose a lot of money. No money for R&D. TikTok is beating them because Silicon Valley has lost their edge and this is before they make no money from China. They're like Detroit. They made cars for what they told consumers what they needed and the Japanese took advantage where they made cars to what the consumer wanted. They've become arrogant hence they're losing their edge. The US can't ignore China. It's exists therefore they need to conquer it.

Some of you "newbies" are sounding like members who have been banned with your sky is falling nonsense..
 

Laviduce

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Merkel is an idiot. The Chinese can buy ports, power plants, open banks, etc in the EU, while EU corporations can't do that in China, and her problem is with Chinese 5G equipment in the EU? Seriously?

China should just let the Russians build the Altai pipeline like they want to so Russia will send the natural gas from Yamal straight into China instead of into Europe via Nord Stream I/II. Let the EU buy "freedom gas" instead at double or triple the price. That would be nice blowback.

Sadly, Angela Merkel and her and other Quisling parties (CDU, the Greens, etc. ) are US-establishment lackeys thanks to decades long conditioning via Quisling organizations such as the Atlantik Bruecke. Currently Germany, as a US vassal state, aids and abets their Neocon/Neolib masters in the US by providing material, financial and miliary support to an out of control regime that thinks it rules above all.

Hopefully one day Germany will be free and sovereign again and these US quislings along with their collaborationist parties will be put in the dust bin of history where it belongs.
 

daifo

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I find it kinda funny when western pundits salivate at factories leaving China to set up somewhere else. Each time it happens, it is actually creating another competitor against the west in manufacturing and in tech. We have seen it over and over with taiwan, korea, japan , china etc.
 
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Sounds fantastic.

How is the foxconn factory doing in US?
I'm just saying, at the very least, China should be prepared to respond to developments like these in full force (like offering competing incentives against India's)
 

emblem21

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Sounds fantastic.

How is the foxconn factory doing in US?
Pretty much dead right now, just like India if they don’t stop the spread of covid (though given the current rate of infection, they much end up being totally infected with half a year). They say these things as though the situation in India will return to normal but given the current collapsing of India and the USA and even Europe’s economies, they really should think of fixing there own problems unless they really want to depopulate there countries, which means more money spent to fix problems and less on anything else. No matter how these idiots paint it, covid is real and they damage it does is real and really no one in there right mind would invest in India or the USA until try fix there issues, otherwise well does anyone want to set up factories in places where people can drop dead from lack of care. They all talk big and make a lot of fancy reports, but the cold hard figures show the truth and a lot of companies are suing Trump right now so really how does any of this benefit the USA right now and also India cannot get there infrastructure fixed so no go there and Europe has the whole duetche bank issue so really they got to stop focusing on China and fix there own problems. If all these nations end up being engulfed by riots because they fail at handling the pandemic and unemployment, well China ends up killing 10-100 birds without throw any stones at all.
The end lesson may be these the western nations not keep on using the same play book over and over again since if they fail even once, they may end up losing it all
 

Nobonita Barua

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I'm just saying, at the very least, China should be prepared to respond to developments like these in full force (like offering competing incentives against India's)
I agree. But china should also avoid being overly concerned. They should be prepared to respond when they see Apple is putting the first brick in place over there ;)
 

AssassinsMace

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Silicon Valley hasn't even felt the coming earthquake because the US closed-off money from China funding new startups in the US. It means all the established giants hold a monopoly. New innovation will be stifled because the only money from investment are from the giants that just destroy or gobble up new startups. Another sector in the US economy that will lose are new entrepreneurs. Again the establishment don't like competition. China provided new entrepreneurs manufacturing for their ideas without them having to build a factory themselves to produce their products at the lowest cost possible. That's all gone now. In the US they always romanticize how the mom and pop shops and new entrepreneurs are the back bone of the US economy. Say bye bye.

I love these lies where somehow the US won't feel a thing from their own technological Cold War with China. If China buys up 60% of the world's chips that are produced, that means they lost 60% of their profits. A private company is more vulnerable to those kinds of losses. If they're going to survive, the capitalists will be begging for money from the government meaning the taxpayers pay. Someone's losing money. There was an article recently where Silicon Valley companies are asking the US government for tens of billions of dollars in support because of the coming Tech Cold War with China. They don't need money because everyone's saying China is the only one that loses.
 
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