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Economic Watch: China confident of keeping yuan stable
Xinhua| 2019-08-05 17:38:56
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China's central bank reiterated on Monday that it is confident in its capability of keeping the yuan's exchange rate basically stable, after both the onshore and offshore yuan fell beyond seven against the U.S. dollar.

The People's Bank of China (PBOC) attributed the weakening of the currency beyond 7 yuan per U.S. dollar on Monday to factors including unilateral and protectionist measures, as well as the expectation of additional tariffs on Chinese goods, according to an online statement.

RESPONSIVE TO MARKET FORCES

The U.S. threat of imposing an additional 10 percent tariff on 300 billion dollars worth of Chinese goods starting Sept. 1 disrupted market expectations, causing global stock and foreign exchange markets to slump, said Zhang Yansheng, a researcher with the China Center for International Economic Exchanges.

"China is the victim of U.S. trade bullying," he added.

Wang Youxin, a researcher with the international financial research institute under the Bank of China, regarded the yuan devaluation as a normal response to external changes.

"The additional tariff hikes on Chinese goods will undoubtedly bring shocks to China's exports and forex revenue. Thus, it is in line with expectations that the yuan's exchange rate fluctuates in accordance with external changes," Wang said.

REMAINS A STRONG CURRENCY

Despite recent weakening, the yuan has strengthened 20 percent against the dollar over the past two decades, the strongest among major currencies in the world.

The yuan remained basically stable and strong against a basket of currencies, with the China Foreign Exchange Trade System yuan exchange rate composite index up 0.3 percent since the beginning of the year.

Although the yuan's central parity rate had weakened about 0.53 percent against the dollar by Friday, its depreciation was much smaller than those of the Korean won, the Argentine peso and the Turkish lira.

"Seven is just a number. It is normal to rise and fall," said Bai Ming, deputy director of the International Market Research Department under the Ministry of Commerce.

CAPABLE OF KEEPING YUAN STABLE

"The PBOC has the experience, confidence and capability necessary to keep the yuan's exchange rate basically stable at a reasonable and balanced level," the statement said.

The yuan's exchange rate is determined by long-term economic fundamentals, although it is affected by the market supply and demand as well as the dollar's movement in the short term.

From the macro perspective, the yuan's exchange rate is buoyed by the country's sound fundamentals, strong economic resilience, stable fiscal position, controllable financial risks, balanced cross-border capital movement and sufficient foreign exchange reserves.

The central bank said China is likely to become a hot spot for global capital, as the country is the only major economy that keeps normal monetary policy while many developed economies have loosened their monetary policies.

The central bank has accumulated considerable experience and policy tools in coping with exchange rate fluctuations, and will continue to innovate and improve its toolkit, crack down on short-term speculation and stabilize market expectations in the future, according to the statement.
 

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china has a trillion of us bonds like reserve and 3 trillion more foreign currencies of firepowe if they wants they can defend yuan in much worse circumstancies (like third world war i think )
 
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Escalating tariffs will lead to further yuan depreciation
Source:Global Times Published: 2019/8/5 21:38:40
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The yuan's sudden slump against the US dollar on Monday added fuel to speculation that China's central bank is allowing currency depreciation to cushion threatened US tariffs.

US President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened new tariffs on Chinese imports as China-US trade tensions spiked again. The sharp fall in the foreign exchange market reflected supply and demand and was a normal market reaction to Trump's latest trade threat.

China has no intention of deliberately depreciating the yuan to spur exports, but Trump's trade war with China has triggered a de facto weakening of the currency and indirectly supported its imports from China.

If Trump further escalates the trade war by imposing more tariffs, the yuan will probably continue to depreciate to ensure a supply-demand balance in the market. The weakness of the yuan can be positive for market discipline and help the currency market develop in a sounder way.

Of course, a gradual depreciation of the yuan will make China's exports more competitive amid the trade war with the US. The byproduct of US punitive tariffs will help support China's exports and probably result in a widening trade deficit in the US. In May, the US trade deficit jumped to a five-month high as imports of goods increased, illustrating how Trump's trade war accelerates the US trade imbalance, making it accumulate more trade deficit.

China doesn't want to wage a currency war with the US, in which competitive depreciation will be introduced. However, this doesn't mean Beijing has an obligation to eliminate the side effects of US punitive tariffs by intervening in the market to defend the yuan. If depreciation caused by Trump's punitive tariffs ultimately hits US exports, don't blame China. It's very likely the yuan will continue to depreciate if Trump escalates the trade war.

China's central bank is not the only one that is allowing depreciation amid rising global uncertainty caused by the Trump administration. The euro and some other currencies have also weakened against the US dollar. It's no secret that Trump wants to weaken the US dollar to cut US trade deficit, but his trade policies seem to run contrary to this goal. This situation may force Trump to resort to monetary easing measures to offset the impact of his punitive tariffs on the currency markets and help the US pursue a weaker currency. China will watch closely to see if the Trump administration intervenes in the markets and deliberately weakens the US dollar.
 

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Escalating tariffs will lead to further yuan depreciation
Source:Global Times Published: 2019/8/5 21:38:40
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Global times is often described like pravda by american "free press" but i think that they make less propaganda and describes the conomical situation more precisely than american media
 
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U.S. "playing with fire" with tariff hikes: experts
Xinhua| 2019-08-05 22:13:30
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Some U.S. politicians are overdrawing the nation's credit as breaking promises has become their signature move, according to experts with think tanks.

The United States once again broke its word by announcing the plan to impose an additional 10 percent in tariffs on 300 billion U.S. dollars worth of Chinese imports starting on Sept. 1.

Those who light the powder keg are bound to get burnt, said scholars and experts at a symposium held by the Renmin University of China (RUC) Monday.

"The U.S. side lacks sincerity in consultation and is used to exerting maximum pressure," said Yu Miaojie, deputy director of the National School of Development at Peking University.

"On the contrary to China's problem-solving stance, the U.S. holds an attitude of making trouble," said Cheng Dawei, a researcher with the National Academy of Development and Strategy, RUC.

China has always kept its word, and the country, based on market principles, has recently created favorable conditions for domestic companies to purchase U.S. agricultural products, Cheng said.

The flip-flopping has brought no benefit to the United States. The country's GDP growth slowed to 2.1 percent in the second quarter, down from the 3.1 percent of growth for the first quarter, latest data from the U.S. Commerce Department showed.

Consumer goods accounted for a considerable proportion in the United States' latest tariff threat against China. The tariff hikes would harm the interests of a vast number of American consumers if they take effect and trigger inflationary pressures in the country, said experts at the symposium.

"It is necessary to recognize the complexity and long-term nature of China-U.S. economic and trade frictions," said Huo Jianguo, vice chairman of the China Society for WTO Studies, adding that for the two largest economies in the world, the "decoupling" theory is unrealistic.

China should maintain a clear understanding and strategic determination by focusing on high-quality development, so as to stimulate market vitality and enhance economic resilience, according to the experts.
 
now took a look at some historic figures, and the post from Jul 28, 2017
Sorry Haters, Your China Hard Landing Has Been Postponed Again

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The Chinese yuan has yet to crack 7 to 1 as George Soros and Barclays both predicted.
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it's going to be interesting to see what's ahead, I mean stuff like

China exchange rate drop could continue into 2020 as it tries to offset US tariff impact, analysts say
  • Beijing’s decision to let yuan fall below key 7.0 level against US dollar means it has decided to use yuan as tool to fight the trade war, analysts said
  • Some analysts see yuan weakening to 7.2 to the US dollar, about a 5 per cent depreciation from its exchange rate before the start of the trade war
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and so on
 
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The yuan breaching 7 against the US dollar is due to multiple factors, including unilateralism, trade protectionism, and expectations for US tariffs on Chinese goods, but the yuan will be kept stable at a reasonable and equilibrium level: PBOC
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US declaration of China as currency manipulator roils global financial markets from the Americas to Asia
  • Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said his agency would engage with the IMF ‘to eliminate the unfair competitive advantage created by China’s latest actions’
  • Financial markets fell from the Americas to Asia, with stock indexes plunging from Seoul to Wellington. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index gave back nearly all of its gains this year
Updated: 11:32am, 6 Aug, 2019
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Global financial markets from the Americas to Asia were roiled by the US Treasury Department’s first move in a quarter of a century to designate China a currency manipulator, after the Chinese central bank let the yuan sink to its lowest level in 11 years in apparent retaliation for US threats of new punitive tariffs on Chinese products.

Asia’s stock markets fell across the region for the second day, taking the cue from a 2.9 per cent plunge overnight in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, its biggest one-day decline since Christmas Eve last year.

Stock markets fell from Seoul to Wellington, while Asian currencies weakened. The yuan see-sawed in early-hour trading in the offshore markets, after China’s central bank set the onshore renminbi’s daily fixing at a weaker rate for the fourth day in a row.

The US Treasury, which had previously held off labelling Beijing a currency manipulator, made the announcement after
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, the yuan weakened and
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. All three major US stock indices lost around 3 per cent on Monday, putting them where they were a year ago.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, “under the auspices of President Trump, has today determined that China is a Currency Manipulator”, the department said in a statement after the markets closed, adding that it will work with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) “to eliminate the unfair competitive advantage created by China’s latest actions”.

The Treasury Department justified its actions by citing China’s “concrete steps” in recent days to devalue its currency while maintaining substantial foreign exchange reserves. “The context of these actions and the implausibility of China’s market stability rationale confirm that the purpose of China’s currency devaluation is to gain an unfair competitive advantage in international trade,” it added in the statement.

China was the last country to be officially designated a currency manipulator by the administration of Bill Clinton in 1994.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump vowed to officially label China a manipulator as soon as he became president, but passed up several opportunities to do so in required twice-yearly reports to Congress. Under a 1998 law, the Treasury Department must name any countries that it finds to be using their legal tender to gain trading advantages over the United States.

While the administration decided not to tag China as such in its May report to Congress, it listed the country as one of nine – the others were Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam – on a list that merited ongoing monitoring.

The fact that the administration chose Monday to issue the manipulator designation in the middle of a tit-for-tat trade showdown, rather than wait for the regular reporting period, suggests this is politically motivated, said Michael Hirson, head of the China and Northeast practice with Eurasia Group and a former US Treasury Financial Attache in Beijing.

Hirson said listing China as a currency manipulator wouldn’t necessarily have huge policy implications or lead to immediate sanctions.

“On its own, it does not amount to a whole lot,” Hirson said. However, “markets are going to register currency as an area of tension and potential danger”.

Stocks fell across Asia on concern the tit-for-tat measures between the US and China would open up a new currency battlefront, adding to the year-long trade and technology wars that are already roiling the global economy.

Japan’s Nikkei 225 fell by as much as 2.9 per cent, and Seoul’s Kospi plunged 2.8 per cent, while the Hang Seng Index weakened by 2.9 per cent. In mainland China, the CSI300 Index fell 2,7 per cent, while the benchmark gauge on the Shanghai bourse plummeted 3.1 per cent and the key index in Shenzhen retraced by 3.9 per cent.

“This announcement overnight is expected to hit risk appetite further,” said JPMorgan Asset Management’s Asia-Pacific chief market strategist Tai Hui. “Export-oriented markets in Asia, including Taiwan, South Korea and Hong Kong, are likely to be at the forefront of this.”

An added concern once Trump designates China a manipulator is that hardliners may heap political pressure on his administration to take action, potentially leading to a growing number of countervailing duty cases that further impede trade.

The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) has denied that it devalued the yuan in response to US tariffs. In a statement, PBOC Governor Yi Gang said China will “not engage in competitive devaluation, and not use the exchange rate for competitive purposes and not use the exchange rate as a tool to deal with external disturbances such as trade disputes.”

The latest salvo over currency is in part another bit of posturing in the high-stakes economic and political showdown between two giants unwilling to back down, some said.

“It’s a stunt,” said Derek Scissors, resident scholar with the American Enterprise Institute and chief economist with the China Beige Book. “China is not manipulating its currency more than it has for years so why do this now. It does manipulate it, but it did that a year ago and two years ago.”

Given that the yuan is controlled and China does not have a market financial system, its currency is by definition manipulated, and done so to align with the government’s interests, he said.

“The objective of the stunt is so Trump can have a dramatic reaction,” Scissors added. “It’s the president firing back at China saying ‘I can do this’.”

The last few days have seen repeated trans-Pacific chest-thumping. On Thursday, Trump announced that
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on remaining Chinese imports not subject to high punitive tariffs, citing Beijing’s shortfall in buying US farm products.

Such a move if carried through will hit many consumer goods in time for Christmas. On Monday,
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below the psychologically important 7 yuan to the US dollar and with the threat to halt US farm product sales. Farmers are a key Trump constituency. This led to Trump’s tweet a few hours later blasting China as a currency manipulator, in advance of the Treasury announcement.

The wording of the Treasury Department announcement – including a call for the IMF to evaluate the merits – may suggest that the agency is taking a measured approach.

“Given all the things that the US could do, this is pretty gentle,” Hirson said. “It smacks a bit of Mnuchin trying to show he is responding to Trump’s tweet.

“Mnuchin may be trying to pre-empt more aggressive action by Trump and the China hawks,” he added.
 
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Huawei sees China smartphone sales surge on back of promotions and patriotism
  • Sales promotions from Huawei have included interest-free instalment payment plans and lotteries for its premium P30 and Mate series
Updated: 10:12am, 6 Aug, 2019
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When 23-year-old Chinese student Aaron Huang started his hunt for an Android replacement for his Apple iPhone in April this year, it was clear which brand was trying hardest to win him over.

Promotional campaigns by Huawei Technologies and from local retailers supporting the brand were everywhere, said Huang, adding he was influenced by domestic media coverage that portrayed the United States as unfairly targeting the Chinese tech giant in its trade war.

“I felt like I should choose Huawei,” he said.

The advertising blitz and grass roots patriotism have proven to be a potent mix, amplifying the brand’s existing broad appeal in its home market – a market it is increasingly dependent on as Washington’s ban on sales of US components and software to Huawei hammers overseas demand.

Second-quarter China smartphone shipments for Huawei surged by a nearly a third from the same period a year earlier, with its market share rocketing 10.6 percentage points to a record 38 per cent, according to research firm Canalys. Shipments for domestic rivals and Apple Inc plummeted.

Huawei has lifted its China sales target for its consumer business group, said a company source, who was not authorised to speak on the matter and declined to be identified.

Within Huawei, employees refer to current strategies as “Battle Mode” and it has stepped up the opening of new stores including “Experience Centers” in the style of Apple shops, other company sources said. One Experience Center near its South China headquarters opened last month while a bigger one in Shenzhen’s tech district of Nanshan will open next month.

Analysts say Huawei has also been transferring unsold smartphone stock from other regions to China and even offering some rare discounting in its home and overseas markets as it seeks to offset sales declines in Europe and the United States.

Huawei declined to comment on its strategies for marketing and managing inventories, or its China sales target. It reiterated an earlier statement that it was not trying to trade on patriotic fervour.

Sales promotions have included interest-free instalment payment plans and lotteries for its premium P30 and Mate series. Analysts add that products from its three brands – Huawei, nova and Honor – outnumber those from rivals in every market segment.

Firms like Chinese electronics retailer Gome and small businesses have been eager to lend a hand, linking Huawei phones with patriotic support.

Fang Xia, a 38-year-old restaurant owner in Shanghai, said she was motivated by recent coverage of Huawei’s dispute with the United States to offer her customers a special deal.

“Tables that have four or more people with Huawei smartphones will get one free plate of Emperor Bullfrog,” proclaims an advertisement for her restaurant’s signature 88 yuan (US$12.50) deep-fried frog dish.

Huawei’s overseas smartphone sales tumbled 28 per cent in the second quarter from the previous quarter, Canalys data showed, but the full impact of the ban is not yet known.

Warning that Huawei products could be a vehicle for Chinese espionage, the Trump administration now requires that US corporations which conduct business with Huawei gain a special license to do so. US government responses to requests for those licenses could come this week, US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said last Tuesday.

In other measures to counter the ban which could strip its access to Google’s Android, Huawei is accelerating efforts to develop its own operating system called Hongmeng. It is looking to roll out a low-end smartphone equipped with Hongmeng in the fourth quarter, state-media outlet Global Times reported on Sunday.

Huawei declined to comment. It has previously said Hongmeng is designed for internet-of-things products and it prefers Android for its smartphones.

Even before the US ban, Huawei had been making big strides in China, moving upmarket into the US$500-800 price range and luring customers away from the likes of Apple with improved camera quality.

“In any segment, it has several options for consumers, that is more than any other brand has to offer,” said Canalys analyst Mo Jia, describing Huawei’s strategy as one of “bombardment”.

Rivals are hurting. Xiaomi saw its second-quarter China shipments tumble 20 per cent from the same period a year earlier, Vivo’s slid 19 per cent while Oppo’s dropped 18 per cent. Apple’s shipments fell 14 per cent, and analysts and Chinese consumers say the US firm could be hit further amid an intensifying US-China trade war.

Xiaomi, Apple, Oppo and Vivo declined to comment.

While Huawei has managed a huge boost in its home market, analysts said China sales may not always stay unscathed as it could struggle to replace US components and software.

“Without the original supply chain, we may see its speed of development start to slow down,” said James Yan, research director at Counterpoint Research.
 
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