Chinese Daily Photos, 2011 to 2019!

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Blitzo

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If the CCP has 86% support of the people as some would have us believe, then there shouldnt be any need for a pre-emptive anything, if anything they should display more signs of magnimity towards the opposing groups, the smally dopey misguided lot they are.(sarcasm)

Where'd you get that percentage from? o_O
I'm sure 1989 is still in the back of their minds and will work as hard as they can to stop future possible reoccurances... It's only natural. And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. :/
And are you being sarcastic in saying the CCP should show magnanimity, or that the opposing groups are dopey and misguided, or both?

As C Custer wrote in his OP, "A Revolution that Was'nt"
Its amzazing on how China's/Peking Police can turn a nothing into something.

Lol revolution. Don't get too excited there, that demonstration can be barely called a protest... But I agree the authorities need to stop handing more meat into the grinder for media.
 
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kyanges

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If the CCP has 86% support of the people as some would have us believe, then there shouldnt be any need for a pre-emptive anything, if anything they should display more signs of magnimity towards the opposing groups, the smally dopey misguided lot they are.(sarcasm)

As C Custer wrote in his OP, "A Revolution that Was'nt"
Its amzazing on how China's/Peking Police can turn a nothing into something.

China's police? Everyone knows that even a few flashing lights will gather attention, regardless of the location. Too many times I've been stuck in traffic jams caused by rubbernecks on the highway here in the States, lol.
 

Engineer

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You know they're just making up stuff. Again the contradiction of how the Jasmine Revolution is using all the mediums that was said to be censored.
This is just like the contradiction where they claim the great firewall is full of holes, can be go around easily and therefore useless, while simultaneously claiming Chinese opinion on China is biased because they are behind the great firewall and cannot access information from outside of China
 

Player 0

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^just saying, in all fairness to the Chinese police, after Tibet and Xinjiang if they didn't take a threat to start a 'revolution' seriously and something actually did happen, the person in charge would be fired in an instant.
 

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A story about the pictures above concerning the Jasmine revolution.

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China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

(AP) – 13 hours ago

BEIJING (AP) — Jittery Chinese authorities wary of any domestic dissent staged a concerted show of force Sunday to squelch a mysterious online call for a "Jasmine Revolution" apparently modeled after pro-democracy demonstrations sweeping the Middle East.

Authorities detained activists, increased the number of police on the streets, disconnected some mobile phone text messaging services and censored Internet postings about the call to stage protests at 2 p.m. in Beijing, Shanghai and 11 other major cities.

The campaign did not gain much traction among ordinary citizens and the chances of overthrowing the Communist government are slim, considering Beijing's tight controls over the media and Internet. A student-led, pro-democracy movement in 1989 was crushed by the military and hundreds, perhaps thousands, were killed.

On Sunday, police took at least three people away in Beijing, one of whom tried to lay down white jasmine flowers while hundreds of people milled about the protest gathering spot, outside a McDonald's on the capital's busiest shopping street. In Shanghai, police led away three people near the planned protest spot after they scuffled in an apparent bid to grab the attention of passers-by.

Many activists said they didn't know who was behind the campaign and weren't sure what to make of the call to protest, which first circulated Saturday on the U.S.-based, Chinese-language news website Boxun.com.

The unsigned notice called for a "Jasmine revolution" — the name given to the Tunisian protest movement — and urged people "to take responsibility for the future." Participants were urged to shout, "We want food, we want work, we want housing, we want fairness" — a slogan that highlights common complaints among Chinese.

The call is likely to fuel anxiety among China's authoritarian government, which is ever alert for domestic discontent and has appeared unnerved by recent protests in Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Yemen, Algeria and Libya. It has limited media reports about them, stressing the instability caused by the protests, and restricted Internet searches to keep Chinese uninformed about Middle Easterners' grievances against their autocratic rulers.

On Saturday in a speech to national and provincial officials, President Hu Jintao ordered them to "solve prominent problems which might harm the harmony and stability of the society."

China's extensive filtering and monitoring of the Internet meant that most Chinese were unlikely to know about Saturday's call to protest. Boxun.com, for example, is blocked as are Twitter and Facebook, which were instrumental in Egypt's protest movement. Still, young tech-smart Chinese are savvy about getting around controls.

One person sitting in the McDonald's after the brief protest in Beijing said he saw Sunday's gathering as a dry run.

"Lots of people in here are Twitter users and came to watch like me," said 42-year-old Hu Di. "Actually this didn't have much organization, but it's a chance to meet each other. It's like preparing for the future."

With foot traffic always heavy at the Wangfujing pedestrian mall, it was difficult to discern who showed up to protest, who came to watch and who was out shopping. Rubberneckers outnumbered any potential protesters. Many wondered if there was a celebrity in the area because of the heavy police presence and dozens of foreign reporters and news cameras.

As the crowd swelled back and forth and police urged people to move on, 25-year-old Liu Xiaobai placed a white jasmine flower on a planter in front of the McDonald's and took some photos with his cell phone.

"I'm quite scared because they took away my phone. I just put down some white flowers, what's wrong with that?" Liu said afterward. "I'm just a normal citizen and I just want peace."

Security agents tried to take away Liu, but he was swarmed by journalists and eventually was seen walking away with a friend.

Two other people were taken away by police, including a shabbily dressed old man who was cursing and shouting, though it wasn't clear if he was there because of the online call to protest.

In Shanghai, three young men were taken away from outside a Starbucks coffee shop in People's Square by police, who refused to answer reporters' questions about why they were detained. They trio had been shouting complaints about the government and that food prices are too high.

A couple dozen older people were drawn to the commotion and started voicing their own complaints and saying they wanted democracy and the right to vote. One woman jumped up on a roadside cement block to shout, "The government are all hooligans," then ran off, only to return a bit later and shout again at the police and others crowded in the area before once again scampering away.

Security officials were relaxed toward the retirees and the crowd eventually drifted away.

There were no reports of protests in other cities where people were urged to gather, such as Guangzhou, Tianjin, Wuhan and Chengdu.

Ahead of the planned protests, human rights groups estimated that anywhere from several dozen to more than 100 activists in cities across China were detained by police, confined to their homes or were missing. Families and friends reported the detention or harassment of several dissidents, and some activists said they were warned not to participate.

On Sunday, searches for "jasmine" were blocked on China's largest Twitter-like microblog, and status updates with the word on popular Chinese social networking site Renren.com were met with an error message and a warning to refrain from postings with "political, sensitive ... or other inappropriate content."

A mass text messaging service from China Mobile was unavailable in Beijing on Sunday due to an upgrade, according to a customer service operator for the leading service provider, who did not know how long the suspension would last. In the past, Chinese authorities have suspended text messaging in politically tense areas to prevent organizing.

Boxun.com said its website was attacked by hackers Saturday after it posted the call to protest. A temporary site, on which users were reporting heavy police presence in several cities, was up and running Sunday. The site said in a statement it had no way of verifying the origins of the campaign.

Associated Press writers Cara Anna and Charles Hutzler in Beijing and Elaine Kurtenbach in Shanghai contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 

kyanges

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This is just like the contradiction where they claim the great firewall is full of holes, can be go around easily and therefore useless, while simultaneously claiming Chinese opinion on China is biased because they are behind the great firewall and cannot access information from outside of China

Well, this is forgivable, because it's usually two different groups that claim one or the other. You might see a news article about how porous the firewall is, but in the comments, one single pro-China post is swamped with accusations of brainwashing by other members. The news will say one thing, and people will just go on believing whatever they want.
 

bladerunner

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Where'd you get that percentage from? o_O
I'm sure 1989 is still in the back of their minds and will work as hard as they can to stop future possible reoccurances... It's only natural. And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. :/
And are you being sarcastic in saying the CCP should show magnanimity, or that the opposing groups are dopey and misguided, or both?

I think it was Martin who published the results of a "PEW" study: where some like that % expressed satisfaction with the way the CCP were performing.

The point I was trying to make is, believing that the CCP over react at times, look how they drew attention to themselves when they asked our politicians not to go the The F.G. concert a couple of weeks ago.in NZ. Thats like waving a red flag at a bull

I was being sarcastic , in calling the protest groups as misguided etc
 

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Well, this is forgivable, because it's usually two different groups that claim one or the other. You might see a news article about how porous the firewall is, but in the comments, one single pro-China post is swamped with accusations of brainwashing by other members. The news will say one thing, and people will just go on believing whatever they want.
And where do you think these people get the idea that Chinese are brainwashed because they can't access information outside of China due to the firewall?

It is the exact same group claiming both things at the same time.
 

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I think it was Martin who published the results of a "PEW" study: where some like that % expressed satisfaction with the way the CCP were performing.

The point I was trying to make is, believing that the CCP over react at times, look how they drew attention to themselves when they asked our politicians not to go the The F.G. concert a couple of weeks ago.in NZ. Thats like waving a red flag at a bull

I was being sarcastic , in calling the protest groups as misguided etc

Oh right. Yes I agree the CCP overreact. Like I said, giving meat to the grinder.

Heh, for a moment there I thought that was something else we agreed on... I suppose it depends on what we call misguided... :p
 

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And let's not forget that a democratic China will be inherently anti-Western. Does anyone seriously think relations with countries that are scared of China now will change because of democracy in China? The only China they will be content with is a backward poor country. All the ingredients of unrest they say are the reason behind the uprisings in the Middle East. How many democratic Chinese politicians will play the blame game in order to get voted? So what they fear of China being not their lackey will still be in play and nothing will change except now the nationalistic Chinese will have a voice and not be stifled which the communists do today.
 
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