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TheFuture_NoMore

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Things are way too early. An actual formal deal would take years to actually complete, if at all. I think what has happened is that Egypt has expressed interest in Chinese aircraft and may possibly evaluate it in the near future after signing an agreement with AVIC.

And in all likelyhood it is foreplay to try and get the Americans to sell them what they want - ie F35s etc.
 

tphuang

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LMFAO no. Unless Israel gets NGAD there is no chance of this happening. The U.S. will not even allow Egyptian F-16 the ability to fire AIM-120 to enforce military balance in the Middle East.
yeah, it's kind of amazing the kind of theories people come up with here.
 

CasualObserver

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Things are way too early. An actual formal deal would take years to actually complete, if at all. I think what has happened is that Egypt has expressed interest in Chinese aircraft and may possibly evaluate it in the near future after signing an agreement with AVIC.
They've been shopping around for years and this is the latest example of that. It's that simple. What happened to their long speculated Eurofighter order? Or why are Egyptian Su-35s grounded in Russia (aside from CAATSA)? What happened to their "local assembly (or production?) of KAI T-50 with ToT" deal? Why are they now interested in Turkish Hürjet instead?

The only reason they can't act on this is because money is tight and their economy runs on foreign debt, they've always been poor but their Saudi and Emirati sponsors are no longer arming them like crazy.

The truth is, this has nothing to do with what the Egyptian Airforce truly needs or what these aircraft are each capable of. This is their way of buying political support, à la ordering Rafales right after the current dictator staged a coup against the first elected president in decades and procuring those Mistral LHDs built for Russia.

The only difference is, this time they've turned to China for support. If they were truly meaning to upgrade their air power, they'd find a way to integrate modern BVR missiles to their large F-16 fleet first.
 
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siegecrossbow

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They've been shopping around for years and this is the latest example of that. It's that simple. What happened to their long speculated Eurofighter order? Or why are Egyptian Su-35s grounded in Russia (aside from CAATSA)? What happened to their "local assembly (or production?) of KAI T-50 with ToT" deal? Why are they now interested in Turkish Hürjet instead?

The only reason they can't act on this is because money is tight and their economy runs on foreign debt, they've always been poor but their Saudi and Emirati sponsors are no longer arming them like crazy.

The truth is, this has nothing to do with what the Egyptian Airforce truly needs or what these aircraft are each capable of. This is their way of buying political support, à la ordering Rafales right after the current dictator staged a coup against the first elected president in decades and procuring those Mistral LHDs built for Russia.

The only difference is, this time they've turned to China for support. If they were truly meaning to upgrade their air power, they'd find a way to integrate modern BVR missiles to their large F-16 fleet first.

Americans won’t do it though. They want to maintain at least a two generations of gap with Israel.
 

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A China's homegrown MA60 remote sensing aircraft is pictured during a scientific operation in Bayannur City, north China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, Aug. 23, 2024. (The Aerospace Information Research Institute under the Chinese Academy of Sciences/Handout via Xinhua )

XI'AN, Sept. 11 (Xinhua) -- China's homegrown MA60 remote sensing aircraft has enabled scientists to conduct scientific studies via a large aerial platform.

The aircraft has filled the country's blank in terms of large and medium-sized remote sensing aircraft featuring long range, multi-tasking ability, multi-function capability and multi-watch windows, according to the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), the country's leading aircraft manufacturer.

The aircraft recently conducted a remote sensing experiment in north China's Luanhe River basin concerning the moisture perspective in the soil-vegetation-atmosphere continuum, thereby providing an advanced technical means for ecological conservation and green development, the AVIC said.

This research was conducted by a joint scientific research team featuring multiple institutions, including the National Space Science Center and Aerospace Information Research Institute (AIR) under the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS).

Serving as an aeronautic remote sensing system, the aircraft enables scientists to accurately capture the moisture content of vegetation and soil by observing forests, farmland and grassland from a unique aerial view.

A joint project of the CAS and AVIC, the MA60 remote sensing aircraft was developed by AVIC XAC Commercial Aircraft Co., Ltd. in Xi'an, northwest China's Shaanxi Province. It is China's new generation, high performance aerial remote sensing platform, and also the country's most comprehensive aerial scientific experiment platform.

"The MA60 remote sensing aircraft and the onboard aerial remote sensing system together make up the Chinese Aeronautic Remote Sensing System, which has the most comprehensive capabilities in China in this field," said Ding Yaxiu, chief designer of the MA60 remote sensing aircraft.

Based on the MA60 regional aircraft, the MA60 remote sensing model is an aircraft platform designed for conducting scientific experiments, and offers improved performance and additional installed systems compared with the MA60 regional aircraft.

The MA60 remote sensing aircraft could be installed with dozens of advanced types of equipment and different systems. "Thus, it can meet mission demands such data collection, recording, processing and transmission," Ding explained.

This model is capable of serving scientific studies in many fields, including agricultural and forestry data investigation, geological and mineral exploration, hydrology, environmental monitoring and evaluation, natural disaster relief, and surveying and mapping.

"The MA60 remote sensing aircraft is the aerial platform of the Chinese Aeronautic Remote Sensing System, thanks to its considerable airborne capacity. For Earth observation tasks, it has 18 windows consisting of 7 different types, which allow the use of related payloads," said Zhu Jinbiao, deputy director of the Airborne Remote Sensing Center under the AIR.

Compared with satellite remote sensing, aerial remote sensing by aircraft is more flexible in terms of selecting the time, location and means of the observation missions. It also offers unique advantages, namely significant mobility, high resolution, more versatile and flexible load configuration, according to Zhu.

"This aircraft plays an increasingly important role in major national tasks such as scientific research, as well as emergency rescue and disaster reduction efforts," he added.

Currently, two MA60 remote sensing aircraft have been put into operation and they have made remarkable achievements in fields such as agriculture, disaster relief, Qinghai-Xizang Plateau scientific research, and more.

In 2023, MA60 remote sensing aircraft undertook 15 national tasks, including the Yellow River Delta land-and-sea ecological monitoring experiment, the monitoring and protection of world heritage sites, and the acquisition of high-precision digital images based on the BeiDou spatio-temporal benchmark.

These aircraft have also been widely used in conducting research related to the likes of the ecological environment, natural resources and land mapping, according to Zhu.

"Looking ahead, the MA60 remote sensing aircraft will continue to serve Chinese scientists in carrying out scientific exploration and building an aerial remote sensing technical system serving major national tasks," Zhu said.
 

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AS700 aerostat has recently completed a 500m low-altitude flight over several scenic areas to demonstrate its suitability for tourism use.

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The first AS700 has been officially delivered to its customer. It will be used for low-altitude sightseeing. So far, orders for 12 AS700 aerostats have been placed.

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