Chinese Aviation Industry

Michael90 said:

Hmm..that's strange. China is supposed to have the world's biggest and growing demand for aircrafts . So I didn't think an operational indigenous regional jet will find it hard to be ordered in large numbers at all. Why is the reason for such limited demand even after almost a decade of operation now?

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Say hello to high speed rail.

Yes, the convinience of HSR (High Speed Rail) is probably the main reason. HSR has high frequency of trips per day and short terminal waiting time compare with airport. And HSR has large extensive network, always depart on time right up to the minutes, no maximum luggage weight restriction and seat comfort etc made it a prefer choice of inter-city transport.

ARJ21 may not be having large sales orders but it was an essential step for COMAC to gain experience and know-how which lead to C919 and C929.

lcloo said:

HSR has high frequency of trips per day and short terminal waiting time compare with airport. And HSR has large extensive network, always depart on time right up to the minutes, no maximum luggage weight restriction and seat comfort etc made it a prefer choice of inter-city transport.

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Yeah I heard about the huge delays in flights in China due to the limited space for civilian airspace with the vast majority controlled by the military . But don't you think if this remains the case it might also limit C919 orders in future?
Why doesn't the government open up more airspace for the civilian aircraft market?
Any reason for this reluctance?

Michael90 said:

Yeah I heard about the huge delays in flights in China due to the limited space for civilian airspace with the vast majority controlled by the military . But don't you think if this remains the case it might also limit C919 orders in future?
Why doesn't the government open up more airspace for the civilian aircraft market?
Any reason for this reluctance?

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This issue was fixed wasn't it? If not, wtf are they they doing...?

Michael90 said:

Hmm..that's strange. China is supposed to have the world's biggest and growing demand for aircrafts . So I didn't think an operational indigenous regional jet will find it hard to be ordered in large numbers at all. Why is the reason for such limited demand even after almost a decade of operation now?

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China doesn't really have many thin routes suitable for RJs. Usually there's enough demand on any given route for bigger aircraft, and many shorter routes are well-served by high-speed rail.

Michael90 said:

Yeah I heard about the huge delays in flights in China due to the limited space for civilian airspace with the vast majority controlled by the military . But don't you think if this remains the case it might also limit C919 orders in future?
Why doesn't the government open up more airspace for the civilian aircraft market?
Any reason for this reluctance?

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not true.. a lot things have changed in past few years. every major city have now new and massive airport. Cities across China look to build, expand civil airports.

as per the Government's plan, China will add more than 150 international standard airports, in next 10 year an average of 10 new airports each year..

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existing assembly line of ARJ-21 has 48 aircrafts production capacity annually..

C919 is a single body aircraft. the most lucrative ''class category'' aircraft in the world. we just cannot compare with ARJ-21..

as per the experts ''China will need over 8,000 new aircraft in the next two decades, accounting for 20% of global airplane deliveries''

ARJ-21 program is more of a ''Learning process'' for COMAC.. and laid a solid foundation for C919/C929..

Michael90 said:

Yeah I heard about the huge delays in flights in China due to the limited space for civilian airspace with the vast majority controlled by the military . But don't you think if this remains the case it might also limit C919 orders in future?
Why doesn't the government open up more airspace for the civilian aircraft market?
Any reason for this reluctance?

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Limited air space for civilian use is very much out-dated, probably by more than a decade or two. China's civilian air space use is probably second only to USA.

Aerofugia, a subsidiary of Geely, has successfully concluded a series of test flights of the electric tiltrotor AES200 demonstrator, including flights under full-load conditions, transitions from vertical to forward flight, etc.

by78 said:

Aerofugia, a subsidiary of Geely, has successfully concluded a series of test flights of the electric tiltrotor AES200 demonstrator, including flights under full-load conditions, transitions from vertical to forward flight, etc.

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Interesting! Is there a link to the video from the third image?

Deino said:

Interesting! Is there a link to the video from the third image?

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You have to have a Wechat account to watch it. Here's the to the article.