Chinese ATGM discussion

by78

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HJ-12 ATGM. It doesn't appear to have a live missile in the tube but some kind of simulation round.

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Kejora

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Supposedly image of HJ-18 lightweight ATGM from Reddit
  1. It is a low-profile missile, its weight is less than 10KG, its length is less than 1 meter, and its missile diameter is less than 90mm.
  2. It has range of 150m-1500m
  3. It is using the infra-tracker SACLOS guidance system, just like the TOW. Although it will transmit the adjusting command to launched missile via radio instead of wires.
  4. This ATGM doesn't need specific crews to operate. It could be delivered to any frontline soldiers as needed, like regular disposable rocket launchers (AT4, RPG-22, LAW etc)
  5. It could be used against various types of targets, including light-armor units/enemy fire position/light fortifications/personnel.
Kinda like Raytheon's
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gongolongo

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Supposedly image of HJ-18 lightweight ATGM from Reddit
  1. It is a low-profile missile, its weight is less than 10KG, its length is less than 1 meter, and its missile diameter is less than 90mm.
  2. It has range of 150m-1500m
  3. It is using the infra-tracker SACLOS guidance system, just like the TOW. Although it will transmit the adjusting command to launched missile via radio instead of wires.
  4. This ATGM doesn't need specific crews to operate. It could be delivered to any frontline soldiers as needed, like regular disposable rocket launchers (AT4, RPG-22, LAW etc)
  5. It could be used against various types of targets, including light-armor units/enemy fire position/light fortifications/personnel.
Kinda like Raytheon's
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I mentioned on reddit too but I think this might mean China is adopting the Carl Gustav like RR soon. I'm blanking out on the name though.
 

TK3600

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Supposedly image of HJ-18 lightweight ATGM from Reddit
  1. It is a low-profile missile, its weight is less than 10KG, its length is less than 1 meter, and its missile diameter is less than 90mm.
  2. It has range of 150m-1500m
  3. It is using the infra-tracker SACLOS guidance system, just like the TOW. Although it will transmit the adjusting command to launched missile via radio instead of wires.
  4. This ATGM doesn't need specific crews to operate. It could be delivered to any frontline soldiers as needed, like regular disposable rocket launchers (AT4, RPG-22, LAW etc)
  5. It could be used against various types of targets, including light-armor units/enemy fire position/light fortifications/personnel.
Kinda like Raytheon's
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Could this have been inspired by Russian use of kornet for anti-personnel purpose? I also recall similar usage by Hezbollah. Turns out affordable, good range, high accuracy goes with anything. Comapred to other exotic ATGM China is making, this one is clearly cheapening out on purpose. I feel like this is like a 21st century equivalent of recoiless rifle such as SPG-9.

Note: the manual emphasized low logistical burden, light, affordable. Targets are mainly light vehicle, fire position, personnel.
 

supersnoop

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Could this have been inspired by Russian use of kornet for anti-personnel purpose? I also recall similar usage by Hezbollah. Turns out affordable, good range, high accuracy goes with anything. Comapred to other exotic ATGM China is making, this one is clearly cheapening out on purpose. I feel like this is like a 21st century equivalent of recoiless rifle such as SPG-9.

Note: the manual emphasized low logistical burden, light, affordable. Targets are mainly light vehicle, fire position, personnel.
Probably not. It would be one of many similar projects of this kind
RTX Griffin
Thales LMM/Martlet
Turkey also has various small missile projects
 

Blitzo

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There is currently no indicator that this "HJ-18" is in PLA service.
 

BoraTas

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Supposedly image of HJ-18 lightweight ATGM from Reddit
  1. It is a low-profile missile, its weight is less than 10KG, its length is less than 1 meter, and its missile diameter is less than 90mm.
  2. It has range of 150m-1500m
  3. It is using the infra-tracker SACLOS guidance system, just like the TOW. Although it will transmit the adjusting command to launched missile via radio instead of wires.
  4. This ATGM doesn't need specific crews to operate. It could be delivered to any frontline soldiers as needed, like regular disposable rocket launchers (AT4, RPG-22, LAW etc)
  5. It could be used against various types of targets, including light-armor units/enemy fire position/light fortifications/personnel.
Kinda like Raytheon's
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In my opinion, a cheap ATGM that could be launched against low-value things is needed. All recent wars in the 20 years saw disproportionate use of ATGMs against non-tank targets. In fact anti-tank use was almost niche. This missile would be really nice if could be launched from the new 93 mm recoilless rifle.
 

by78

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GAM-100LR and GAM-102LR debut at the International Defense and Security Exhibition in Thailand. They are the extended range versions of the previously known GM-100 and GAM-102 ATGMs.

GAM-102LR features redesigned mid-body control surfaces compared to GAM-102 (see second image below).

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