Chinese air to air missiles

bsdnf

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I bet others have thought of this before, or it may have been achieved before. But this paper to get a deviation angle of less than 0.01 degrees and a deviation distance of less than 0.1 meters is an absolutely insane algorithm.

And the fact that the target aircraft was constantly performing 15G maneuvers; Like how many active-duty pilots could even do that? Or have they already planned for UCAV vs. UCAV?
 
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sequ

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I bet others have thought of this before, or it may have even been achieved before . But this paper to get a deviation angle of less than 0.01 degrees and a deviation distance of less than 0.1 meters is an absolutely insane algorithm.
Post the paper then...
 

Alfa_Particle

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High-performance UAVs guide 500 kilometer range long-range air-to-air missiles, calculate and predict enemy aircraft flight trajectories, and divide the predicted hit zone convex hull into missile-coordinated attack sub-regions to cover the enemy aircraft terminal envelope.

Simple launch-guide-relaunch is outdated; enemy needs to face a missile swarm/kill cloud.

Or, to use a more old-fashioned example as analogie, PzH-2000 was often marketed for its ability to achieve simultaneous impact of three shells through ballistic trajectory planning.

Now, it's about three long-range missiles, can hit the same point simultaneously, or in wave, or spread out to cover the area where enemy aircraft may maneuver, to ensure at least one hits.
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Oh hey ain't this the one I posted on Twitter (ignore the caption)?


If you convert the longitude and latitude to km it's pretty darn insane...
 

Alfa_Particle

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I've been meaning to post this (not sure if it has been posted prior): an IWB-compatible ALHCM, with a length of 4.6 m and a diameter of 0.5 m, weighing at 1.15 tonnes.img-177113656660671d9a9ef8f51c534bd3358666f8b295507423f7fd51ee425cb3df335a7f890a1.jpg1770779018098.pngScreenshot_20260215_162624_com_hihonor_photos_GalleryMain_edit_41655178812547.jpgScreenshot_20260215_162626_com_hihonor_photos_GalleryMain_edit_41667781231031.jpgScreenshot_20260215_162627_com_hihonor_photos_GalleryMain_edit_41676293436028.jpg

The scariest thing isn't that this might be able to fit in the J-XD-S or the J-36, it's the fact that a Mach 4 launch from the IWB is a consideration for it :D
 

ougoah

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But this is the YJ-19 which is a anti-ship and anti-surface missile not an air to air missile. Why is this in this thread?

Mach 4 launch would not be from J-36 or J-XD. More likely from JH-xx.
 

Alfa_Particle

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But this is the YJ-19 which is a anti-ship and anti-surface missile not an air to air missile. Why is this in this thread?

Mach 4 launch would not be from J-36 or J-XD. More likely from JH-xx.
Who said this is merely the YJ-19 adapted to be air-launched? For all we know this could be something akin to the CJ-1000 which can target aerial assets.

Also, if you've actually read the figures, you would've seen that it's capable of M2 launch too. Nobody said the J-36/XD would be lobbing it at M4. And afaik there's yet to be any solid evidence to suggest the existence of a JH-XX.
 

deusical

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u/Devil_R22 on reddit has been translating
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about the Flanker's history in China, and in
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they mentioned "As a result, the Chinese have also used the J-16, as well as some J-11B and BS units based in the Golbi Desert, to test fire several new type of air-to-air missiles, including the heavy, long-range PL-17, in an attempt to shoot down certain 5th-gen aircraft that supercruises at Mach 1.6 with a sustained 5G load in a distance of more than 400km."

Have we heard about this before? If this is true, it makes it pretty clear that the PL-17 is meant for much more than just slow, non-maneuvering targets. Also, can anyone access the video to find the exact wording?
 
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