RedMercury
Junior Member
Don't get worked up. The less they know, the better.
Chinese air to air missiles
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EDIATH
Junior Member
Can't agree more. :rofl:
This "justification" mentality used to be somewhat amusing but is now a plain nuisance. Don't they realise they are inadvertly advertising for Russian firms by giving them credit for someone else's work? Why not question every American weapon design for using Japanese electronics as well?
andyhugfan
Banned Idiot
is the pl-21 something comparable as the novator?
IronsightSniper
Junior Member
I don't actually think it's even in service yet. It's range is said to be >100 km, but the Novator has scored test kills out to 300+ km and has a maximum range of 400 km, so on that basis, I'd say no.
I should add one more thing, range is highly dependent on launch platform, altitude of launch, and speed of launch, among many other things. One can "beef up" their missile's range number by launching it from 15 km from a fighter going at Mach 1.5.
How can you all compare PL-21 to Novator K-100?? Both are different type of missile.
PL-21 is a ramjet all aspect BVRAAM design to kill any type of plane(Fighter jet to Bomber) at long range. It can even take on fighter jet pulling 9G trying to escape the missiles.
Novator is just like AIM-54 Phoneix missiles design to kill AWACS, big long range bomber and tanker with low G pulling.
Even a J-7 if aware the coming of Novator can easily evade the missile by quickly pulling high G to evade it.
Ever wonder why AIM-54 is now out of service from USAF and USN???
Ambivalent
Junior Member
AIM-54 is out of service because the F-14 was retired and it was the only platform for the Phoenix. The USAF would not support the Navy's follow on, the AIM-152 because it would not fit inside the F-22 weapons bay. The Navy was basically forced to buy the AIM-120 even though it was not the missile they wanted. They did manage to force the design of an AIM-120D with longer range, though still not as long ranged nor as fast as Phoenix was or AIM-152 would have been. With the end of the Cold War, defense spending cutbacks meant any new air to air missile had to be a joint service program. No more single service stove-piped procurement programs.
Btw, you know absolutely nothing about AIM-54's maneuverability. All of that information was and remains classified. If you knew the truth you would be very surprised. It's sole drawback, and that of the F-14, were high cost.
Skywatcher
Captain
If that chart is to scale, the PL-21 should be about 4 meters, and 250mm in diameter (seems similar in size to the Hughes/Raytheon AIM-152 proposal in size, incidentally).