timepass
Brigadier
They will not, PAK army constantly busting several hideouts of external elements in Baluchistan...
China's Westward One Belt One Road Strategy
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They will not, PAK army constantly busting several hideouts of external elements in Baluchistan...
Blackstone
Brigadier
Pakistan-India relationship problems could diminish if China gets both countries to cooperate in CPEC and in the wider Belt and Road Initiative. All three sides gain.
Yes.
However there are so many elements in both India and Pakistan who want to keep the relationship hostile.
But if there is both a security track (SCO) and economic track (OBOR/AIIB/BRICS), hopefully the benefits will be enough to overcome those who want to sabotage the relationship.
Blackstone
Brigadier
If CPEC shows early success for member states, then it might compel India to join for self interests of not being left behind the most-dynamic economic development story in South Asia.
timepass
Brigadier
Only ONE answer sort out Kashmir Issue (core issue of the region) in light of UN resolutions..... rest is all secondary...
timepass
Brigadier
- - : Pakistan can provide access corridor to world 21 percent percent fuel & 29 percent gas from SCO members countries to world market.
Pakistan has formally become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) during 17th meeting of the Heads of the State Council summit held here (SCO).
Pakistan has been an Observer with SCO since 2005 and applied for full membership of the organization in 2010. The decision, in principle, to give membership to Pakistan was taken by the SCO Heads of States meeting held in Ufa, Russia, in 2015.
Pakistan has formally become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) during 17th meeting of the Heads of the State Council summit held here (SCO).
Pakistan has been an Observer with SCO since 2005 and applied for full membership of the organization in 2010. The decision, in principle, to give membership to Pakistan was taken by the SCO Heads of States meeting held in Ufa, Russia, in 2015.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
I have been looking for this video for a long time. It give the story of Karakorum in full and not bit and pieces. After watching this video I am moved
I would rank this road as one of the most difficult road built in the world
Even the Chinese are overwhelmed by the complex geological formation of the karakorum area
It started in 1959 when China send 50000 PLA soldier to built the road by hand literally 100 Chinese lives and 800 Pakistanis lives lost
The story of a Pakistani ex soldier who devoted his live tended the grave of 80 Chinese soldier is moving
The road was widened in 2006 This time around China has the technology and equipment to do the work.But even they are overwhelmed by geological complexity of the area
The fact that road is completed is testament to the ingenuity, hard work,determination and perseverance of both team Pakistani and Chinese. Enjoy the video it is along one If you have google cast it better to cast it to your TV
Even when China was poor in 59 She is rise to the occasion make me proud. I couldn't think anyone can built this road but China
I would rank this road as one of the most difficult road built in the world
Even the Chinese are overwhelmed by the complex geological formation of the karakorum area
It started in 1959 when China send 50000 PLA soldier to built the road by hand literally 100 Chinese lives and 800 Pakistanis lives lost
The story of a Pakistani ex soldier who devoted his live tended the grave of 80 Chinese soldier is moving
The road was widened in 2006 This time around China has the technology and equipment to do the work.But even they are overwhelmed by geological complexity of the area
The fact that road is completed is testament to the ingenuity, hard work,determination and perseverance of both team Pakistani and Chinese. Enjoy the video it is along one If you have google cast it better to cast it to your TV
Even when China was poor in 59 She is rise to the occasion make me proud. I couldn't think anyone can built this road but China
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
This is a good article about OBOR from Tsuruoka total 30% of all investment in Africa a considerable sum and in some country like Ethiopia and Kenya it has overwhelmed impact
A by professional services firm Ernst & Young said China has invested a total of US$66.4 billion in 293 foreign direct investment projects in Africa since 2005, creating 130,750 jobs.
China’s Obor could keep African economies moving
In the first of a two-part series, Doug Tsuruoka finds experts bullish on the opportunities for African nations from Beijing's investment drive; however, local support will be key
By JUNE 12, 2017 4:10 PM (UTC+8
A local resident greets Chinese and African workers on the Addis Ababa–Djibouti railway. Photo: Qin bin / Imaginechina
It’s a ripple effect that could transform Africa’s economies — but it will take time to gather force.
China’s bold One Belt One Road (Obor) initiative to forge an integrated economic zone that stretches from Central Asia to Europe has an African component that could energize nations such as Nigeria and Tanzania at a time when they need a lift. Growth in sub-Saharan Africa hit its lowest level in two decades last year due to unstable oil prices, inflation and political volatility.
Analysts say Obor’s impact could be sizable in Kenya and all over East Africa, where the focus on a supporting that touches the Indian Ocean region is spurring investment from Beijing to facilitate East-West trade. Such activities will complement strong Chinese trade ties with Nigeria, Angola and South Africa.
Obor has a firm beachhead in Africa. China surpassed the US as Africa’s largest trading partner in 2009. Chinese companies are already active on the continent, where over a million Chinese workers and immigrants . State-related entities and businesses from China have financed and built infrastructure projects for various African nations, including railways, ports, roads, dams and telecom networks.
“[Obor] is something that’s already happening in Africa,” says David Dollar, a senior fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based Brookings Institution. The former World Bank official estimates that China currently finances about US$10 billion a year in infrastructure investment in Africa. “That’s significant. It’s about a third of all external financing for infrastructure projects in Africa,” Dollar said.
He notes that Obor’s maritime link will benefit Africa the most when shipping routes from the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean are factored in. “There’s a need for maritime infrastructure all along these routes and East Africa is definitely part of that,” Dollar said.
Three silk roads stretching from China to Southeast Asia Europe and Africa, Jan 2017.
Is there a danger that China will neglect the Africa portion of Obor in favor of Central Asia and Europe? “No,” Dollar said. “Sending goods by land from Central Asia to Europe is expensive and not very practical.” Container ships are much more efficient, he says. This is why the idea of expanding East Africa’s ports dovetails with Obor.
A by professional services firm Ernst & Young said China has invested a total of US$66.4 billion in 293 foreign direct investment projects in Africa since 2005, creating 130,750 jobs.
“(Obor) could prove to be a win-win situation for both partners, positioning Africa as a suitable avenue for China’s excess savings and infrastructure capacity,” the report said.
Currently, Africa ships oil, iron ore and metals to China and receives machinery, transportation, communications equipment and manufactured goods in return. Ernst & Young estimates that Chinese exports to Africa weighed in at US$82.9 billion in 2016 vs. US$54.3 billion in imports.
Obor’s expanding scope
Obor’s benefits for Africa were detailed in a published by the South African Institute on International Affairs (SAIIA). The piece, by policy experts Yu-Shan Wu, Elizabeth Sidiropoulos and Chris Alden, noted how China’s activities are expanding outward from East Africa and African states are showing increased interest in joining the Chinese initiative.
“With financial ambitions of this magnitude, there is no doubt that (Obor) will have a ripple effect on the continent,” the authors wrote. “Economically speaking, [Obor] could channel China’s overcapacity in areas such as infrastructure development to Africa, a necessary component for its industrialization.”
As part of a wider integration, Obor is also expected to forge economic links between Africa and both Europe and Southeast Asia. Chinese capital and technology also promise to kick-start industrialization, which is uneven and lags in many African countries.
“There is the promise of a more equitable global order compared to the current structure that neither Africa nor China helped build,” the authors pointed out.
Hard realities
But Obor’s promise must still grapple with African realities. Unstable security and investment environments made worse by the rise of Radical Islam are deterring Chinese and other foreign investors. Transport, energy and communications infrastructure in many parts of the continent are still inadequate to sustain African participation in an ambitious plan like Obor. And Africa’s private sector needs to rise to a level where it can partner with Chinese firms in construction, manufacturing and other ventures, analysts say.
“The reality on the ground is that there are many existing challenges for these Chinese projects,” said Africa analyst Janet Eom, noting a lack of infrastructure and skilled labor at local level. Eom is a research manager for the China Africa Research Initiative (CARI) at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, D.C.
“It remains in the hands of Africa to make the necessary linkages between national, continental and global initiatives”
On the Chinese side, Brookings’ Dollar says a lack of transparency on Beijing’s financing and other plans for Africa makes it difficult to assess Obor’s real impact on the continent.
Actual African interest in Obor also remains spotty. Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta was the only African head of state to attend May’s Belt and Road Summit in Beijing, though lower-ranking ministers were present from Egypt, Ethiopia and Tunisia. This compares with the 28 leaders from other countries, including Vladimir Putin of Russia, who attended the confab.
Analysts say continuing and consistent political support from African governments is key if Obor is to succeed on a regional basis.
“It remains in the hands of Africa to make the necessary linkages between national, continental and global initiatives,” the SAIIA article said.
Doug Tsuruoka is Editor-at-Large of Asia Times
A by professional services firm Ernst & Young said China has invested a total of US$66.4 billion in 293 foreign direct investment projects in Africa since 2005, creating 130,750 jobs.
China’s Obor could keep African economies moving
In the first of a two-part series, Doug Tsuruoka finds experts bullish on the opportunities for African nations from Beijing's investment drive; however, local support will be key
By JUNE 12, 2017 4:10 PM (UTC+8
A local resident greets Chinese and African workers on the Addis Ababa–Djibouti railway. Photo: Qin bin / Imaginechina
It’s a ripple effect that could transform Africa’s economies — but it will take time to gather force.
China’s bold One Belt One Road (Obor) initiative to forge an integrated economic zone that stretches from Central Asia to Europe has an African component that could energize nations such as Nigeria and Tanzania at a time when they need a lift. Growth in sub-Saharan Africa hit its lowest level in two decades last year due to unstable oil prices, inflation and political volatility.
Analysts say Obor’s impact could be sizable in Kenya and all over East Africa, where the focus on a supporting that touches the Indian Ocean region is spurring investment from Beijing to facilitate East-West trade. Such activities will complement strong Chinese trade ties with Nigeria, Angola and South Africa.
Obor has a firm beachhead in Africa. China surpassed the US as Africa’s largest trading partner in 2009. Chinese companies are already active on the continent, where over a million Chinese workers and immigrants . State-related entities and businesses from China have financed and built infrastructure projects for various African nations, including railways, ports, roads, dams and telecom networks.
“[Obor] is something that’s already happening in Africa,” says David Dollar, a senior fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based Brookings Institution. The former World Bank official estimates that China currently finances about US$10 billion a year in infrastructure investment in Africa. “That’s significant. It’s about a third of all external financing for infrastructure projects in Africa,” Dollar said.
He notes that Obor’s maritime link will benefit Africa the most when shipping routes from the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean are factored in. “There’s a need for maritime infrastructure all along these routes and East Africa is definitely part of that,” Dollar said.
Three silk roads stretching from China to Southeast Asia Europe and Africa, Jan 2017.
Is there a danger that China will neglect the Africa portion of Obor in favor of Central Asia and Europe? “No,” Dollar said. “Sending goods by land from Central Asia to Europe is expensive and not very practical.” Container ships are much more efficient, he says. This is why the idea of expanding East Africa’s ports dovetails with Obor.
A by professional services firm Ernst & Young said China has invested a total of US$66.4 billion in 293 foreign direct investment projects in Africa since 2005, creating 130,750 jobs.
“(Obor) could prove to be a win-win situation for both partners, positioning Africa as a suitable avenue for China’s excess savings and infrastructure capacity,” the report said.
Currently, Africa ships oil, iron ore and metals to China and receives machinery, transportation, communications equipment and manufactured goods in return. Ernst & Young estimates that Chinese exports to Africa weighed in at US$82.9 billion in 2016 vs. US$54.3 billion in imports.
Obor’s expanding scope
Obor’s benefits for Africa were detailed in a published by the South African Institute on International Affairs (SAIIA). The piece, by policy experts Yu-Shan Wu, Elizabeth Sidiropoulos and Chris Alden, noted how China’s activities are expanding outward from East Africa and African states are showing increased interest in joining the Chinese initiative.
“With financial ambitions of this magnitude, there is no doubt that (Obor) will have a ripple effect on the continent,” the authors wrote. “Economically speaking, [Obor] could channel China’s overcapacity in areas such as infrastructure development to Africa, a necessary component for its industrialization.”
As part of a wider integration, Obor is also expected to forge economic links between Africa and both Europe and Southeast Asia. Chinese capital and technology also promise to kick-start industrialization, which is uneven and lags in many African countries.
“There is the promise of a more equitable global order compared to the current structure that neither Africa nor China helped build,” the authors pointed out.
Hard realities
But Obor’s promise must still grapple with African realities. Unstable security and investment environments made worse by the rise of Radical Islam are deterring Chinese and other foreign investors. Transport, energy and communications infrastructure in many parts of the continent are still inadequate to sustain African participation in an ambitious plan like Obor. And Africa’s private sector needs to rise to a level where it can partner with Chinese firms in construction, manufacturing and other ventures, analysts say.
“The reality on the ground is that there are many existing challenges for these Chinese projects,” said Africa analyst Janet Eom, noting a lack of infrastructure and skilled labor at local level. Eom is a research manager for the China Africa Research Initiative (CARI) at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, D.C.
“It remains in the hands of Africa to make the necessary linkages between national, continental and global initiatives”
On the Chinese side, Brookings’ Dollar says a lack of transparency on Beijing’s financing and other plans for Africa makes it difficult to assess Obor’s real impact on the continent.
Actual African interest in Obor also remains spotty. Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta was the only African head of state to attend May’s Belt and Road Summit in Beijing, though lower-ranking ministers were present from Egypt, Ethiopia and Tunisia. This compares with the 28 leaders from other countries, including Vladimir Putin of Russia, who attended the confab.
Analysts say continuing and consistent political support from African governments is key if Obor is to succeed on a regional basis.
“It remains in the hands of Africa to make the necessary linkages between national, continental and global initiatives,” the SAIIA article said.
Doug Tsuruoka is Editor-at-Large of Asia Times
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
You are comparing apple to orange here because the Kenyan line gear more toward freight transportation and can carry double decker freight container
No electricity is available . Ethiopia has surplus of electricity so they used electric train which is more efficient since the motor has high efficiency
It cost more because they have to built 33 new grand station whereas the Ethiopian line use existing railstation or simple building.
Some section of the railway is elevated that add to the cost
Plus land in Ethiopia is owned by the government and in Kenya they have to pay huge compensation to the owner
Anywa the rail is built now and sofar the public is happy with it and It was built to high standard