China's Westward One Belt One Road Strategy

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Lieutenant General
Simply put, America is around the Indo-Pacific because it's in its interests to do so, and most regional countries want US around to balance China.

Not 100% everybody in that Indo-Pacific region, just the elite few and the rich who does NOT speak for everyone of their own country. It is only those elite rich few that wants to use the US as a counter weight economic deal against China for their selfish purpose.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Not 100% everybody in that Indo-Pacific region, just the elite few and the rich who does NOT speak for everyone of their own country. It is only those elite rich few that wants to use the US as a counter weight economic deal against China for their selfish purpose.
Only the elite few want US around the Indo-Pacific? Let's test your ridiculous claim by asking you to list your evidence.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Here's a good example about why the US should give up its Hegemonic entitlement.

To avoid a violent militaristic clash with
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, or another cold war rivalry, the United States should pursue a simple solution: give up its empire.

Americans fear that China’s rapid economic growth will slowly translate into a more expansive and assertive foreign policy that will inevitably result in a war with the US. Harvard Professor Graham Allison
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: “in 12 of 16 cases in the past 500 years when a rising power challenged a ruling power, the outcome was war.” Chicago University scholar John Mearsheimer
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: “China cannot rise peacefully.”

But the apparently looming conflict between the US and China is not because of China’s rise per se, but rather because the US insists on maintaining military and economic dominance among China’s neighbors. Although Americans like to think of their massive overseas military presence as a benign force that’s inherently stabilizing, Beijing certainly doesn’t see it that way.

According to political scientists
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, Beijing sees America as “the most intrusive outside actor in China’s internal affairs, the guarantor of the status quo in Taiwan, the largest naval presence in the East China and South China seas, [and] the formal or informal military ally of many of China’s neighbors.” (All of which is true.) They think that the US “seeks to curtail China’s political influence and harm China’s interests” with a “militaristic, offense-minded, expansionist, and selfish” foreign policy.

China’s regional ambitions are not uniquely pernicious or aggressive, but they do overlap with America’s ambition to be the dominant power in its own region, and in every region of the world.

Leaving aside caricatured debates about which nation should get to wave the big “Number 1” foam finger, it’s worth asking whether having 50,000 US troops permanently stationed in Japan actually serves US interests and what benefits we derive from keeping almost 30,000 US troops in South Korea and whether Americans will be any safer if the Obama administration manages to reestablish a
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presence in the Philippines to counter China’s maritime territorial claims in the South China Sea.

Many commentators say yes. Robert Kagan
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not only that US hegemony makes us safer and richer, but also that it bestows peace and prosperity on everybody else. If America doesn’t rule, goes his argument, the world becomes less free, less stable and less safe.

But a good chunk of the scholarly literature disputes these claims. “There are good theoretical and empirical reasons”, wrote political scientist Christopher Fettweis in his book Pathologies of Power, “to doubt that US hegemony is the primary cause of the current stability.” The international system, rather than cowering in obedience to American demands for peace, is far more “self-policing”, says Fettweis. A combination of economic development and the destructive power of modern militaries serves as a much more satisfying answer for why states increasingly see war as detrimental to their interests.

International relations theorist Robert Jervis has
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that “the pursuit of primacy was what great power politics was all about in the past” but that, in a world of nuclear weapons with “low security threats and great common interests among the developed countries”, primacy does not have the strategic or economic benefits it once had.

Nor does US dominance reap much in the way of tangible rewards for most Americans: international relations theorist Daniel Drezner
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that “the economic benefits from military predominance alone seem, at a minimum, to have been exaggerated”; that “There is little evidence that military primacy yields appreciable geoeconomic gains”; and that, therefore, “an overreliance on military preponderance is badly misguided.”

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Blackstone

Brigadier
Oh no here comes your ridiculous test again.
Do you have any evidence to prove that 100% of the people in Indo-Pacific want's the US forces to be used against China. :rolleyes:
You're the only one using unrelistic terms like "100%" on international relations, that's why it was easy to put you to the test. I used the word "most" in the context of most countries in the Indo-Pacific wants the US around to balance China.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
You're the only one using unrelistic terms like "100%" on international relations, that's why it was easy to put you to the test. I used the word "most" in the context of most countries in the Indo-Pacific wants the US around to balance China.

No because you didn't have any proof to support your theory that's why you get mad at me for it.
 

tidalwave

Senior Member
Registered Member
The term Balance is a vague term. Nothing hardcore about it.

I think its rather superficial and harmless. Its all good.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
The term Balance is a vague term. Nothing hardcore about it.

I think its rather superficial and harmless. Its all good.

True, but our friend Blackstone here likes to use that term to claim that his Western Christian propaganda are better than CPC propaganda.:D;)
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
True, but our friend Blackstone here likes to use that term to claim that his Western Christian propaganda are better than CPC propaganda.:D;)
I respect your right to knock Christianity, with no personal animus on that topic. None whatsoever. But, you should at least get Christianity right in that it's an Eastern religion and not Western. Jesus Christ was a Middle Eastern man, a Jew. His followers successfully spread Christianity to the East, but was persecuted in the West. There were cathedrals in Samarkand and in other Central Asian states long before cathedrals in Rome and Western Europe, and Christian churches were welcomed in Persia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkminestan, India, and China when they were banned by the West. It's a very rough sketch I know, but it's historically accurate.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
The term Balance is a vague term. Nothing hardcore about it.

I think its rather superficial and harmless. Its all good.
The term balance in international relations isn't vague at all, and it means states doing what they can to avoid being dominated by potential hegemons. In China's case, it means its weaker neighbors latching onto the US and hoping it doesn't leave Asia.
 
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