China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

sunnymaxi

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Unless China has to deploy it's assets to another continent or their domestic territory is the size of USSR, I don't see why they would need a C5 size plane.
Domestic needs can be satisfied with Y20.
PLA is evolving rapidly. we might see some military bases pop up in African continent and Middle east by the end of this decade ..

Y-20B is more than enough for any type of mission though.. but we cannot rule out super heavy lifter.. AVIC was extremely interested in this type of aircraft in last decade. but didn't materialize due to various reasons..
 

didklmyself

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PLA is evolving rapidly. we might see some military bases pop up in African continent and Middle east by the end of this decade ..

Y-20B is more than enough for any type of mission though.. but we cannot rule out super heavy lifter.. AVIC was extremely interested in this type of aircraft in last decade. but didn't materialize due to various reasons..
If there is any work on it going on presently, then we should be getting the info. PLA wouldn't be too secretive about a transport plane.
I don't see the reason for PLA to have military bases in Middle East(particularly) or Africa, Djibouti one is enough for safeguarding China bound shipments. A handful of overseas bases doesn't warrant a need for C5 league transporter.
Unless there is a radical strategic shift and China believes they need to develop capabilities to fight wars abroad, producing heavy ones are a waste. Sure, they can research and build a few prototypes it would be helpful.
 

Blitzo

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Unless China has to deploy it's assets to another continent or their domestic territory is the size of USSR, I don't see why they would need a C5 size plane.
Domestic needs can be satisfied with Y20.
Anything about Y40? the chinese version of C5.
Why bother? There are very very few things a C5 sized aircraft can do that a C17 sized one cannot.
The U.S. has modernized its C5s but only a small number and this was done mostly to supplement the C17 fleet.
the Russians have maintained a number of AN124 but mostly because they don’t have the capability to replace them.
from the practical perspective building out more Y20

The PLA does have a requirement for a C-5 or An-124 class aircraft, but there are higher priority projects they are more interested in where resources will be prioritized.
 

Maikeru

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PLA is evolving rapidly. we might see some military bases pop up in African continent and Middle east by the end of this decade ..

Y-20B is more than enough for any type of mission though.. but we cannot rule out super heavy lifter.. AVIC was extremely interested in this type of aircraft in last decade. but didn't materialize due to various reasons..
I'm hearing there's a well appointed base, all mod cons, coming on the market shortly in Niger.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Could you elaborate? Sources...?
Niger Airbase 201. It’s a drone base the U.S. built to assist in the fight against Boko haram. The Junta in charge has already brought in the “mercenary army” formerly known as Wagner.

The very large transport aircraft will just naturally happen once the engines to do one are available. I would say at worst after CJ-2000 enters service.
In any event since CJ1000 isn’t available yet and CJ2000 probably won’t be before the end of the decade this “Y40” is a longer term at best.
Y20 is what they have and that isn’t bad.
 

lcloo

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C5 size transport are for time sensitive, urgent shipment of over-size cargo. It fits in well within US strategic airlift requirements as they are operating in locatins all over the globe. More specifically urgent airlifts from US continent to Europe, or to Israel and Western Pacific region to expedite deployment of heavy equipment for US intervention forces and its allies.

The Ukranian/Russian heavy lifters are used mostly on civilian commercial shipment instead of military cargo.

If China were to proceed ahead with developing a large heavy transport of the same league. They should consider who will be the main end user of these aircraft.

In military these heavy lifters come handy for fast deployment of heavy artillery, air defense battalion, heavy engineering equipment etc to Himalaya region, to quickly change the balance of forces against the opponent. However, if PLA has pre-positioned their equipment and resouces at nearby regions that required only half a day to one day of travel by road to Tibet or any potential hot spot. The priority for heavy lifters would be lowered.

Commercial shipment of over-size equipment are mostly non time sensitive as the maritime shipment dates can be arranged in accordance to project schedules in that the timeline of delivery would have been fixed years or months before. Unless the sea route has been blocked or endangered like current Red Sea situation.

Thus C5 size heavy lifters are nice to have, but not a neccesity, since China has no global defense obligations. However, there is a niche market in transportation of space rockets and fuselage of large aircraft like C919, C929 and may be a larger C9X9 of future.
 
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by78

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@Deino, YY-20 tanker 20546.

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