China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

abc123

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Coz the plant which build Il-76 is not in Russia but to Tashkent Uzbekistan and finaly the contract big for 34 impossible.

Actualy delivered are old Russians refurbished a order of 10 how many delivered ? in more 3 other ( secondhand ) and 14 from 1st batch new these ones.
But but :) 4 later converted to KJ-2000

So, PLA AF has how many IL-76 ( of all variants )?
 

asif iqbal

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Total IL-76 received in 1990s was

14 x Il76
4 converted into AWACS

Then another 3 ordered in 2012

And now mix of TD/MD coming 10 units

Total 27

In cargo, tanker and AWACS role
 

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New Chinese aircraft has a record number of passengers
Source: Global Times Published: 2017/9/24 23:18:40

China's heavy transport aircraft the Y-20 welcomed its first group of passengers aboard on Friday, while setting a record for the number of people carried on a single flight by a domestic aircraft.

The success of this flight clearly demonstrated the performance, safety and stability of the Y-20 in the first test flight of this kind, which will boost customer confidence in the aircraft, the Aviation Industry Corporation of China's (AVIC) First Aircraft Institute announced on Saturday on its WeChat account.

Qiang Suihong, an AVIC engineer who took part in the flight, said, "As one of the developers, I'm really honored and proud to be on board the aircraft."

"The experience during the flight and communications with the flight crew will help us find any deficiencies in the design and make progress in the future," Qiang said.

The passengers were all members of an AVIC Y-20 development group.

The State-owned AVIC was responsible for both the design and manufacturing of the Y-20 long-range transport aircraft, which had its maiden flight in January 2013, and made its debut at the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province, in November 2014.

The aircraft officially went into full service with the Chinese air force in July 2016.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Passengers are all members of the team, not all members of the team are passengers

But losing 40 or 50 team member will be enough to cripple the effort Anyway see how young and attractive are the young team member of Y 20 design team. china is close to halfway the number of intended earlier purchase IL 76 MD from Russia, that was scuttled due to break up of Soviet union
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The Chinese military transport aircraft Y-20 has just completed its first passenger transport test, according to
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The design office specializing in the design of transport planes and bombers for the AVIC aircraft manufacturer gave almost no details on this test flight, but indicated that the test was the high priority of the Y-20 program. 2017, to verify the transport capacity, the design safety level and the stability of the systems.

It is also the test that has embarked the largest number of people on board since the first inaugural flight of Y-20 which dates back to 26 January 2013.

TANG Chang Hong (唐 长 红), chief program engineer, as well as passengers coming mainly from the different offices of the institute participating in the program, seem to be satisfied with the flight.

Here are some testimonies gathered in the article:

- QIANG Sui Hong, Office No. 1 (Structure)

I am proud to be able to board a plane that I took part in its development. The number of colleagues who enrolled in this test flight also demonstrates our confidence in the Y-20. Through our own feelings and exchanges with the crew, we will have elements that will allow us to continue to improve the aircraft.

- FU Qiang, Office No. 3

The take-off distance is quite short and the landing is flexible, our system (on the sail) which allows to increase the lift has worked well.

- MOU Wei Xing, Office No. 4

This is the first time I fly on a plane we designed, I am very excited. These two hours of travel are extraordinary, the plane takes off and lands softly, we did not feel any trembling in the air. The interior (of the plane) is comfortable, one feels almost like in an airliner.

- LUO Jing Feng, Office No. 7 (Fuel System)

Proud to be on an airplane that we designed together, even though the road is still long in front of us.

So how many people actually boarded this Y-20 flight?

Although Xi'an has not revealed any details so far, we can still deduce a part ourselves. Given that the American C-17, which is larger and longer than the Y-20, is capable of transporting up to 102 fully equipped paratroopers, it is reasonable to assume that the nominal capacity of the Chinese exceed this limit.

We also know the IL-76MD, of which about 20 are in active service in China, can carry about forty people in the bunker in standard configuration, and that this Russian aircraft is of comparable size to its Chinese counterpart, if not that it is much less wide (31.5 meters for IL-76® versus 4 meters for Y-20).

The passenger capacity of Y-20 would therefore be between 40 and 100, in a mixed Cargo-Passenger configuration.

And if we rely on two of the very rare photos taken inside the cargo bay of a Y-20 that has been equipped with the Chinese Air Force since July 2016, it will be noticed that the Chinese transport plane would have between 40 and 50 seats on both sides of the aircraft.

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Seats aboard Y-20 appear to be all numbered (Image: 四川 卫视; Comment: East Pendulum)

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The interior layout of a Y-20 in service in the Chinese Air Force (Picture: 四川 卫视; Comment: East Pendulum)

Passenger capacity therefore depends on whether there are 20 or 25 seats per row, and whether the Y-20 who conducted the passenger test was in the same configuration of the interior arrangement with the one used as a reference.

This suggests that less than 50 people from the 603 Xi'an Institute boarded the Y-20 for the first passenger test, which lasted around two hours.

As for the number of Y-20 products so far, we had predicted last year "
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", according to which two to three aircraft could be delivered by quarter to the Chinese military, starting in the second quarter of 2017, a pace 1 to see slightly lower.

And the latest photos released show that at least five Y-20s have been admitted to active service by the Chinese Air Force, including two first copies introduced in July 2017.

It is still too early to say whether our forecast model is to be revised or not, but at this rate the Chinese air force could receive up to ten Y-20 by the end of 2017, half of the IL- 76MD China whose supply channels are more or less discontinue.

To be continued.

Henri K.
 
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manqiangrexue

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But losing 40 or 50 team member will be enough to cripple the effort Anyway see how young and attractive are the young team member of Y 20 design team. china is close to halfway the number of intended earlier purchase IL 76 MD from Russia, that was scuttled due to break up of Soviet union
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The Chinese military transport aircraft Y-20 has just completed its first passenger transport test, according to
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.

The design office specializing in the design of transport planes and bombers for the AVIC aircraft manufacturer gave almost no details on this test flight, but indicated that the test was the high priority of the Y-20 program. 2017, to verify the transport capacity, the design safety level and the stability of the systems.

It is also the test that has embarked the largest number of people on board since the first inaugural flight of Y-20 which dates back to 26 January 2013.

TANG Chang Hong (唐 长 红), chief program engineer, as well as passengers coming mainly from the different offices of the institute participating in the program, seem to be satisfied with the flight.

Here are some testimonies gathered in the article:

- QIANG Sui Hong, Office No. 1 (Structure)

I am proud to be able to board a plane that I took part in its development. The number of colleagues who enrolled in this test flight also demonstrates our confidence in the Y-20. Through our own feelings and exchanges with the crew, we will have elements that will allow us to continue to improve the aircraft.

- FU Qiang, Office No. 3

The take-off distance is quite short and the landing is flexible, our system (on the sail) which allows to increase the lift has worked well.

- MOU Wei Xing, Office No. 4

This is the first time I fly on a plane we designed, I am very excited. These two hours of travel are extraordinary, the plane takes off and lands softly, we did not feel any trembling in the air. The interior (of the plane) is comfortable, one feels almost like in an airliner.

- LUO Jing Feng, Office No. 7 (Fuel System)

Proud to be on an airplane that we designed together, even though the road is still long in front of us.

So how many people actually boarded this Y-20 flight?

Although Xi'an has not revealed any details so far, we can still deduce a part ourselves. Given that the American C-17, which is larger and longer than the Y-20, is capable of transporting up to 102 fully equipped paratroopers, it is reasonable to assume that the nominal capacity of the Chinese exceed this limit.

We also know the IL-76MD, of which about 20 are in active service in China, can carry about forty people in the bunker in standard configuration, and that this Russian aircraft is of comparable size to its Chinese counterpart, if not that it is much less wide (31.5 meters for IL-76® versus 4 meters for Y-20).

The passenger capacity of Y-20 would therefore be between 40 and 100, in a mixed Cargo-Passenger configuration.

And if we rely on two of the very rare photos taken inside the cargo bay of a Y-20 that has been equipped with the Chinese Air Force since July 2016, it will be noticed that the Chinese transport plane would have between 40 and 50 seats on both sides of the aircraft.

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Seats aboard Y-20 appear to be all numbered (Image: 四川 卫视; Comment: East Pendulum)

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The interior layout of a Y-20 in service in the Chinese Air Force (Picture: 四川 卫视; Comment: East Pendulum)

Passenger capacity therefore depends on whether there are 20 or 25 seats per row, and whether the Y-20 who conducted the passenger test was in the same configuration of the interior arrangement with the one used as a reference.

This suggests that less than 50 people from the 603 Xi'an Institute boarded the Y-20 for the first passenger test, which lasted around two hours.

As for the number of Y-20 products so far, we had predicted last year "
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", according to which two to three aircraft could be delivered by quarter to the Chinese military, starting in the second quarter of 2017, a pace 1 to see slightly lower.

And the latest photos released show that at least five Y-20s have been admitted to active service by the Chinese Air Force, including two first copies introduced in July 2017.

It is still too early to say whether our forecast model is to be revised or not, but at this rate the Chinese air force could receive up to ten Y-20 by the end of 2017, half of the IL- 76MD China whose supply channels are more or less discontinue.

To be continued.

Henri K.
Those are the designers of Y-20??? If so, holy hell I'm impressed! I thought those were just a bunch of tourists!
 

Hendrik_2000

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Those are the designers of Y-20??? If so, holy hell I'm impressed! I thought those were just a bunch of tourists!

I know they are young team but on second thought you might be right Henri just take a stock photo and implied it as the recent team that boarded the Y 20. they certainly doesn't look like a geek. But on the other hand ,they are wearing a cap with what look like a Avic logo. Hard to say
 
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