China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

tphuang

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i think the original analysis of that came from this article, it was originally in Russian and i got it translated using google translate
Representatives of the Ukrainian aircraft construction concern "Antonov" negotiating with China Aviation Corporation AVIC a joint venture. According to "CASE", this joint venture should be the basis for future production of AN-70 in China.

"The main objective of cooperation with China - joint development of new technology. The problem is not only to sell engineering knowledge, but also set up production in China "- explained Deputy Chief Designer, Antonov Design Bureau. Antonov Gennady Gabruk. In fact, for "Antonov" China - Partner, which will minimize the dependence of Ukraine on cooperation with Russia in the construction of airplanes.

As "BUSINESS» (№ 130 from 20.08.09), the development of today, our An-70 aircraft manufacturers are engaged together with partners in Russia. Nevertheless, the Russians had once refused to cooperate in the production of the aircraft. In 2006, Russia's defense minister Sergei Ivanov said that his country had such an aircraft is not needed, since it already has an analogue - IL-76. However, according to experts, the main reason the Russians out of the project was the desire to build not only in Ukraine but in Russia. And so far in this matter the parties failed to reach a compromise.

Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers attempt to hedge against surprises from the Russian partners from China, looks like it is very reasonable. The Chinese already have experience in the use and production of aircraft Ukrainian designers. So, armed with the PRC are native An-2. Also under license in China made a copy of the Antonov An-24, which they called Y-7. With the help of Ukrainian designers created a modernized version of the Y-7 - M-60, went into series production in 2000.

In addition, Chinese engineers have developed without a license production of cargo aircraft An-12 under the name Y-8, which now forms the basis of the vehicle fleet of the Chinese Air Force. Analysts suggest that the Chinese aircraft manufacturers are interested in the An-70, as the plan is due to this model to update its fleet of military cargo aircraft.

According to experts, the Chinese market is one of the most promising for Ukrainian aircraft builders. Thus, as predicted by the European aviation company Airbus for the years 2009-2029, the greatest demand for air transportation will be directly in China and Southeast Asia. "In such circumstances, access to the Chinese market is looking for Ukrainian aircraft designers are very promising," - says a senior analyst at Astrum Investment Management Alexander Cava.

An-70 - medium-load (operational-tactical military transport) aircraft of new generation. First flight of the An-70 took place on December 16, 1994 in Kiev. It is known that one AN-70, which will assemble at the enterprises of ASTC. Antonova, in cooperation with Russia specialist, will cost $ 35-40 million
This is another article on this from earlier.
Kyiv, July 3 (Interfax-Ukraine) - Vice Chairman of the National
Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference Wang
Gang visited on Friday Kyiv-based Antonov Design Bureau to view advanced
developments in Ukrainian aircraft engineering.
The Chinese guest was introduced to programs to develop modern
airplanes that could be used in China, in particular the new An-148
regional jet, the An-74 multipurpose aircraft, the An-70 military and
transport aircraft and the An-124-100M-150 modernized heavy transport
aircraft, the Antonov Design Bureau's press service told Interfax-
Ukraine.
During the Le Bourget 2009 international air show held outside
Paris in June, the China Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC) confirmed
its interest in continuing cooperation with the Ukrainian developer
within both existing and new programs.
Today, Antonov Design Bureau is studying the possibilities of
developing cooperation with China's aviation industry, including in
projects initiated by AVIC-I on the development of a new Chinese
transport aircraft. The partners signed the memorandum of intent on
cooperation for the development of China's new regional turboprop
aircraft designed for 70 passengers - the MA700
 

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XAC to become majority owner of FACC AG

05 October 2009
Xi'an Aircraft Industry (Group) Company Ltd (XAC) of China is to acquire the majority of shares in FACC AG, a supplier of composite aircraft components based in Austria.

FACC, based in Ried, Austria, offers a range of composite products, from aircraft fairings to fuselages and wings, engine and engine nacelle components and complete aircraft cabins.


XAC is part of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a state-owned enterprise focused on the aircraft market.

On completion of the acquisition, 91.25% of the shares of FACC will be held by XAC, a developer of military and commercial aircraft. 5% will remain in possession of the Austrian holding company ACC Kooperationen und Beteiligungen GmbH and 3.75% will be retained by Stephan Ges.m.b.H.

The transaction is subject to regulatory approvals and is expected to be finalised by the end of the 2009 fourth quarter.

After the acquisition, a share capital increase will be carried out, raising shareholders' equity from the current €40 million up to no less than €80 million. FACC says this will assure its planned business development.

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edit: NVM, nothing to see here. Thanks King Comm.
 
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King_Comm

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The photo is a Kawasaki C-X.
 
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My impression is that the An-70 project would serve to accelerate the Y-xx transport development by sharing technologies and such, as both are expected to be 50t payload transports.
 

maya

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so what? They've studied IL-76 for years. They've been modifying it for special purpose missions. And the one they design will probably look a lot like IL-76. There is a first for everything.

As for the photo itself, that's just made by a fanboy, nobody here knows what it really looks like.

I have seen an official pic of the Y-XX.;)
Y-XX does look a lot like a scaled-down C-17+IL-76
Time will tell what it really looks like ...
 

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根据空军运八C型机装备计划,空军将一次性采购多架运八C型机,这是公司历史上运八系列飞机采购力度最大的一次,对巩固、开拓运八飞机市场及公司未来发展具有重大意义。

  参加地勤改装培训的部队是运八飞机的新用户,参训人员大部分为新学员,培训效果如何将直接影响飞机交付部队后的使用维护效能。因此,上级机关和公司领导对此次培训十分重视,多次组织召开专题会议,研究部署相关事宜。市场部针对新学员较多、技术基础薄弱、飞机技术状态更改较大等情况,制定科学计划,重新修订教材,精心挑选教员,进行了充分准备和周密安排。

  此次培训分理论培训、机上实习和机务带教三个阶段进行。

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  运8飞机是我国目前自行研制的最大的中程、中型多用途运输机。该机为全金属半硬壳结构,海鸥张臂式上单翼,起落架为前三点布局,主起为四轮小车式,有低压轮胎和新颖的盘式刹车机构,收放灵活,安全可靠。安装四台涡轮螺旋桨发动机,恒速并可顺桨反桨。机上装有各种先进的仪表、通讯及导航设备,可以确保飞机在任何气象条件下昼夜安全飞行。可在草地、雪地、砂砾地等简易机场安全起降,可进行空运、空投、空降等作业。
basically says that PLAAF just made its biggest ever order for Y-8 from SAC of the Y-8C variant.
 

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basically says that PLAAF just made its biggest ever order for Y-8 from SAC of the Y-8C variant.
Why are the PLAAF going for the Y-8, don't they already have the Y-9 under development?
 

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Why are the PLAAF going for the Y-8, don't they already have the Y-9 under development?

perhaps the Y-9 developement is still not gonna be ready anytime soon and they needed to improve their transport plane capacities and capability urgently. Anyway, Y-8 is a good and proven plane, so it will basically fills in the gap until the better Y-9 is in service.
 

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I suppose that must be the only reason...

I can't believe it's taking them this long to develop such a plane.

But they could get a more capable Y8 version, like one of the six bladed propeller ones (basically KJ-200 without radar and avionics and such).
 
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