China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

Deino

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Re: China's transport plane capacities

And that's why I don't understand China didn't try to join the An-70 programme !??

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tphuang

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Yes, but...will they be able to build it? After all china never developed a air transport before

so what? They've studied IL-76 for years. They've been modifying it for special purpose missions. And the one they design will probably look a lot like IL-76. There is a first for everything.

As for the photo itself, that's just made by a fanboy, nobody here knows what it really looks like.
 

Lion

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Re: China's transport plane capacities

And that's why I don't understand China didn't try to join the An-70 programme !??

Deino

I think China is quite confident in building one itself.

They already have it classify by the Chairman Hu as one of top 5 project China going to achieve in 5 years plan.

Huge resources and manpower already allocated in this project.

Plus they may model on IL-76 which they are familiar with,with bigger capacity and payload. It may speed up the process.
 

lcloo

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Building a large transport plane is far easier than a fighter jet. The main concern would be load capacity and range, engine and wing design are crucial.

I believe engine would be the main obstacle, as that is the main weakness in Chinese aviation technology. To overcome this they can buy or built under license first, then change to Chinese designed ones when thay have over-come the technology hitch.

China already has experience in building parts for Airbus and Boeing, they are not starting totally from scratch.
 

challenge

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report ,joint sino-ukraine to develop a 12 ton thrust passenger jet turbofans engine.
 

montyp165

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They should still buy the An-124.

Definitely, a C5 level heavy transport would greatly facilitate strategic mobility, plus the Ukrainians may be more willing to provide production know-how for the Ivchenko-Progress high-bypass turbofans for localized production too.
 

tphuang

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I saw this in a couple of places today. Basically, I think we have been expecting this news for a while, but it's truly great to see that this might finally come to fruition. Of course now, I don't think it will use D-27.
Antonov Corp. plans JV with China to produce An-70 aircraft
Antonov Corporation, one of the largest airplane producers in the CIS, has
launched negotiations with China Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC) to create
a joint venture to produce the An-70 aircraft in China. The major aim of this
project is not only to sell existing equipment to China, but also jointly
develop new, deputy chief designer of Antonov, Mr. Gabruk said. At the same
time, Antonov reps believe that the JV should also hedge the risks of Russia
abandoning the An-70 project completely by providing another strategic ally.
Our view: We see this news as generally positive for Motor Sich (MSICH UZ, BUY),
whose D-27 series engine should exclusively propel An-70 aircraft when the
project reaches the serial production stage. Given the fact that the Chinese
market should become one of the most attractive aviation equipment markets in
the next decade, we see this as a great opportunity for MSICH to increase its
sales there. Moreover, Motor Sich has had a successful track record in
cooperating with Chinese aviation producers, leaving us with no doubt as to the
positive outcome of this JV for Motor Sich in the medium term. On the other
side, we see a number of serious potential threats linked with such partnership:
-assembly of Antonov planes in China should give an easy access for Chinese
scientists to MSICH's engines, which might lead to China trying to replicate
them;
-unresolved ownership rights on a whole range of joint Antonov planes projects
between Ukraine and Russia might make it uncomfortable for Antonov to create a
partnership in China while creating a precedent affecting the future of all
Russian-Ukrainian aircraft projects.
Nonetheless, we believe that at present the potential gains from this JV should
outweigh the risks for Motor Sich, which supports our favorable outlook for the
Company. We recommend BUYing shares of Motor Sich with the target price of UAH
 
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