China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

Re: China's transport plane capacities

Bltizo said:

Why are the PLAAF going for the Y-8, don't they already have the Y-9 under development?

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what choice do you think they have? All their special missions Y-8 planes are using the Y-8F600 or Y-8F400 platforms, so the transports have to use the less advanced Y-8C.

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They've been lacking a large fleet of transports for some time now. I was under the impression that they finally managed to start re-negotiating the Il-76 deal. Will this sudden, pragmatic solution indicate that the talks are still going nowhere and the PLAAF finally couldn't wait any longer?

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translation said a mock up of jet engine for C-919 passenger aircraft was shown in shanghai exhibition.is there any more info,or a picture?

Re: China's transport plane capacities

tphuang said:

what choice do you think they have? All their special missions Y-8 planes are using the Y-8F600 or Y-8F400 platforms, so the transports have to use the less advanced Y-8C.

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Exactly, couldn't they use the Y-8F600 or 400 instead of the Y-8C at least? I mean, what's stopping them using the same planes they have used for their gaoxin Y-8's?

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Bltizo said:

Exactly, couldn't they use the Y-8F600 or 400 instead of the Y-8C at least? I mean, what's stopping them using the same planes they have used for their gaoxin Y-8's?

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they need different parts for those planes, they have separate assembly lines for different variants of Y-8s.

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Bltizo said:

Exactly, couldn't they use the Y-8F600 or 400 instead of the Y-8C at least? I mean, what's stopping them using the same planes they have used for their gaoxin Y-8's?

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cost. Afterall the Y-8 are only aircraft to fill the gap until Y-9 or IL-76 came in. So there really is no need for too advance an aircraft which will cost a bomb.

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rhino123 said:

cost. Afterall the Y-8 are only aircraft to fill the gap until Y-9 or IL-76 came in. So there really is no need for too advance an aircraft which will cost a bomb.

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Hmm.. Very good analysis and very true.

Presently, China airborne troops can go for light mechanized. Those 10tons and 15tons armour vehicle can easily accomodate into Y-8 for transportation. Highly lethal in firepower and fast in speed but no need for greater protection.

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Bltizo said:

I can't believe it's taking them this long to develop such a plane.

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Yeah. If they are having lots of trouble developing y-9, how can they develop Y-xx (c-17/il-76 class)? Unless y-9 is not being propelly funded/supported or even cancelled...

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kroko said:

Yeah. If they are having lots of trouble developing y-9, how can they develop Y-xx (c-17/il-76 class)? Unless y-9 is not being propelly funded/supported or even cancelled...

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they are just not putting that much resource into Y-9 when Y-8F600 is already doing everything that they need for the special missions platform. Y-9 was basically abandoned for a while there.

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China Will Show A 200 Tonne Class Transport Plane Full Scale (Model)?

中国200吨级军用大飞机将亮相 由我国独立研发制造

200吨级最大军用大飞机年底亮相

研发、生产制造过程全部由我国独立完成　民用大飞机也在生产中

本报讯 （记者张颖川） 中国的大飞机有了最新进展，中国空军军用200吨级大飞机实体年底将在西飞亮相。这将是中国最大的军用大飞机。


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