China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

pla101prc

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Re: China's transport plane capacities

the people on the Chinese websites joked about this and said that the AVIC actually meant the end of the year on the Lunar calendar...that gives them an additional two months LOL
 

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Forget it; there will be no debut. Last I heard, all release of news related to the large transport have been canceled.
 

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Y-20 cargo aircraft

the author claim that Y-20 is clone copy of IL-76, in fact the aircraft is based on AN-71, the only different was the engine, Antonov aircraft use propfan, while Chinese version use jet engine
 
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the author claim that Y-20 is clone copy of IL-76, in fact the aircraft is based on AN-71, the only different was the engine, Antonov aircraft use propfan, while Chinese version use jet engine

Could You plaese - again for the x-th time !!! - give a link for Your posts ??

These are very old pictures - I think already 2-3 yeras old - of a Il-76 ... and nothing on these pictures show anything that leds to the assumption of being an An-71 based design.

Deino :mad:
 

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Could You plaese - again for the x-th time !!! - give a link for Your posts ??

These are very old pictures - I think already 2-3 yeras old - of a Il-76 ... and nothing on these pictures show anything that leds to the assumption of being an An-71 based design.

Deino :mad:

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a typical article with a lot of bs, but most important part is that it mentioned Y-8C and KJ-200 (Naval Project 5 - I guess high new 5) being produced for the navy. Also, talked about the difficulties in building Y-9. Again, confirming Y-9 project is back on track.
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青年突击队是青年人成长成才的摇篮,互助互学是突击队的优良传统。第二航空部件厂在青年突击队活动开展中,注重对青年人的培育和培养,通过组织岗位培训、岗位练兵、师徒结对、同业务竞赛,为青年人搭建了成才的平台。青年突击队队员们在工作中团结协作,互相学习,各自将对相关专业知识的理解和生产实践经验毫无保留地互相传授,遇到问题,群策群力,在最短时间内解决。一代又一代青年人在这种氛围中不断成长,逐步成长为生产骨干。由这些优秀青年组成的青年突击队,他们在工作中表现出的吃大苦、耐大劳、特别能战斗、特别能奉献的工作作风为第二航空部件厂打造了一支善于创造奇迹的队伍。
在“五号工程”2103架机中段总装过程中,由于铰刀长期使用磨损,不易满足装配精度要求,突击队工作陷入了困境,而距离钳工装配只剩下三天的时间了,时间不等人。为了保住节点,身为钳工的陈辉、黄伯兴两名突击队员们发挥聪明才智,想尽一切办法,对钳工装配进行了大胆改进,主动延长加班时间,凭着一身过硬的钳工技术,将原来需要5天时间才能干完的工作,只用了3天就保质保量完成,为后续工作的顺利完成奠定了坚实基础,同时诞生了一项新的钳工装配新纪录。在后续工作中,突击队员们克服三伏天气异常酷热,夜晚蚊虫肆虐的困难,全然不顾衣服被汗水浸透和休息不够的影响,忘我工作,用12天完成总装工作,生产周期被再次改写。他们用自己的实际行动谱写了一曲完美的乐章。分厂领导激动的向突击队员们致谢,此举受到集团公司团委的高度赞扬。
运九型飞机的前中段大部件对接突击任务中,由于地板上新增了八条货运滑轨,前中段是否协调,行程孔距精度能否满足设计要求就成了对接成败的重要因素,而行程孔的尺寸是由英制转换(公制)过来的,公差的要求必需满足工、英两种计量标准,难度之大可见一斑。对接过程中,当前中段两大部件相继调平向一起合拢时问题出现了,八条滑轨没一条能按预想的状态出现,前后滑轨如锯齿般交错。突击队员们没有被眼前困那吓倒,他们仔细分析问题,并制定出几套行之有效解决方案,对不协调的滑轨进行重新定位,利用自己设计的滑轨对接模型对各条滑轨进行逐一归位,保证了各段滑轨的良好对接,经工序检验,一次合格。
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more from the Shaanxi AC website. Not really sure when this was posted. It talks about SAC's recent work in the High New 5, High New 7 project's design and production to High New 6's design reviewand the involvement in the 048 project (which is the aircraft carrier project). I guess that means SAC will be involved in the fix winged AEW project.

It talks about High New 5 (KJ-200) being the lifeline of the company. Since it involved a lot of changes over the original airframe, a lot of work were done. It also talked about the work in High New 6 project and confirmed that it is a MPA.
总体预研团支部是一支有着优良传统的团队,在陕飞公司各种机型的设计研制中,他们勤于学习、勇于创新、甘于奉献,他们正以崭新的面貌,昂扬的斗志奋勇前进着。这支年轻的队伍现有团员12人,青年人数占全室总人数的75%,其中6名青年还担任着组长职务,是一支充满朝气和无限潜力的队伍。
近年来,集团公司多种型号机型的科研生产任务繁重,总体预研团支部根据科研生产任务的实际情况先后多次开展了青年突击队、短线攻关及劳动竞赛活动,从 “五号工程”、“七号工程”的研制和生产到 “六号工程”的立项论证、方案评审,以及“048项目”的论证,轻型干扰机的研制,多少个日日夜夜,无数个分分秒秒,他们始终站在最前沿,用艰苦的劳动、辛勤的汗水保证了各项任务的顺利完成。
“五号工程”是陕飞公司的生命工程,由于飞机在原准机的基础上改动较大,生产中的问题较多,为保证节点任务顺利完成,作为设计部门的龙头单位,负责该项任务的顾明华、薛海明等年轻同志,除了要完成科研任务还要负责生产问题的跟产,几乎天天加班,手机保证24小时开通,数不清有多少次别人还躺在温暖的被窝里的时候,他们却在飞机上爬上爬下解决问题;又有多少次在甜美的梦乡里被急促的电话铃声吵醒,拖着疲惫的身体赶到生产现场。他们为飞机按节点首飞做出了巨大贡献。在“六号工程”立项论证刚开始时,总体预研团支部根据这一任务立即成立了青年突击队,为工作协调方便,将查图室作为办公地点和临时的家,突击队员们没日没夜的工作,他们忘记了周末,忘记了休息。年轻的突击队员郑战星同志,在突击过程中,患上了感冒,高烧、咳嗽的病状一起侵袭着他,可他从没有请过一次假,没有休息过一个公休日,甚至在办公室工作的时间比其他同事都要多,到最后由于咽喉发炎说话的声音越来越小,沙哑到很难进行正常的语言交流,即使这样他也没有放弃工作,选择休息,在他心里只有一个目标,那就是一定要保证工作按时完成。在大家的共同努力下,终于高质量按节点的完成了工作任务,保证了“六号工程” 立项工作顺利完成;在方案论证阶段,团支部再一次主动请缨,成立了有9名青年组成的青年突击队,他们放弃了“五一”长假和所有的周末休息时间,顺利完成了某巡逻机的总体研制方案初稿,为以后的方案论证打下了坚实的基础。为争取“048项目”,刚刚做父亲的杨建同志本该留在妻子的身边照顾妻子,但是由于预研室人员太少,他不得不在家里和办公室两处奔波,与其他同志共同准备相关资料,一干就是凌晨2、3点,通宵加班也是家常便饭,一两天也难难睡上一回踏实觉。像这样的事例还很多很多,这也充分说明总体预研团支部是一支能吃苦、能奉献的好团队。
团支部为适应公司人才需要,正在全力打造学习型团支部,鼓励团员青年立足岗位,勤学苦练,定期组织团员青年进行多形式的学习,并先后邀请“青年岗位能手” 郑战星同志、“青年岗位能手”薛海明同志和“青年岗位能手标兵”顾明华同志讲课,指导团员青年不断提升自身的专业技术水平,帮助青年快速成长成才。
辛苦的劳动,无私的付出也换来了回报,这个队伍中的同志也先后取得了多项荣誉,胡冶、马凯等同志被设计院评为“季度之星”;马江同志由于工作出色,为公司节约了科研费用而被设计院评为“2007年年度科技创新之星”;郑战星、薛海明两位同志先后被评为“青年岗位能手”;顾明华同志被评为“青年岗位能手标兵”;总体预研团支部被评为“五四红旗团支部”。
总体预研团支部在大家的帮助和自身的努力下的正在快速成长,全体成员已经做好了迎接更大挑战,完成艰巨任务的准备,我们要把良好的作风保持下去,而且会做得更好,我们也更加坚信我们的明天会更好,陕飞的明天也会更好。
 

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more from the Shaanxi AC website. Not really sure when this was posted. It talks about SAC's recent work in the High New 5, High New 7 project's design and production to High New 6's design reviewand the involvement in the 048 project (which is the aircraft carrier project). I guess that means SAC will be involved in the fix winged AEW project.

It talks about High New 5 (KJ-200) being the lifeline of the company. Since it involved a lot of changes over the original airframe, a lot of work were done. It also talked about the work in High New 6 project and confirmed that it is a MPA.

two questions:
what is a MPA? and what is high new 7?

If china is developing an carrier-based AEW aircraft, that means that the indigenous carrier will have catapults, otherwise such an aircraft wont be able to take off.
 

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A MPA is a maritime patrol aircraft, a bit like the P-8 Poseidon and P-3 Orion.

I think High New 7 is psych ops.
 
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