China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

montyp165

Senior Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

maybe this whole thing is a scam to get the russians to agree on the il-76/78 deal that they have been stalling

This is probably the real deal, considering the benefits of having an indigenous product to work with, along with export possibilities too.
 

challenge

Banned Idiot
Re: China's transport plane capacities

report that ukrainian firm antonov provide technical assisstant.
possible a stretch fuselage 230~250 ton transport is in the drawing board.
already the russian is planning C-17 alike IL-476 transport.
 

maya

New Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

from my view, that means at the end of this year, the first aircraft prototype assembly completed,and off the line,showing in XAC.

it is just a full scale engineering mock-up.the prototype of Y-20 is still under design and her maiden flight is scheduled for 2012.
 

Maggern

Junior Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

report that ukrainian firm antonov provide technical assisstant.
possible a stretch fuselage 230~250 ton transport is in the drawing board.
already the russian is planning C-17 alike IL-476 transport.

A nice strategy of divide and rule if true. If the Russians are making a fuzz over their deal, go to their nemesises in the Ukraine.
 

Quickie

Colonel
Re: China's transport plane capacities

it is just a full scale engineering mock-up.the prototype of Y-20 is still under design and her maiden flight is scheduled for 2012.

If this is true, it would be the perfect way to dissapoint the fanboys. First, make an ambiguous announcement that the actual prototype would be shown. Then, when the actual day comes, just show them some pictures and some mockups and say something like most of stuffs are still in preliminary stages of development.

But, don't you think this goes against the norm of the PLA only announcing something when they are already way ahead with the project.
 
Last edited:

danielchin

Junior Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

But, don't you think this goes against the norm of the PLA only announcing something when they are already way ahead with the project.

I think it is the new policy following the issuing of the defense white paper to make China's military development more transparent to the world.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

I think it is the new policy following the issuing of the defense white paper to make China's military development more transparent to the world.

i think the airforce took the word "transparent" a bit too literally in recent days...man i thought these guys were supposed to be good at word games:roll:
 

Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
Re: China's transport plane capacities

There may be another reason why will the development of the new transport plane be so transparent and why we will see full sized mocukps long before the first flight.

Export potential.

Unlike j10 and other planes, a transport plane is considerably less important asset to keep its technical abilities under wraps.

More importantly, there is a very noticable gap in making in heavy lift market. C-17 is ceasing production, IL76 has been on the market for decades, there are hundreds of them flying around and will need replacing in the next 10, 20 years. Newer variants of il76 have been advertised but so far have been produced only in very small numbers. Production capabilities for il76 seem to have atrified, as we could have seen in the china order of 35+ planes, which proved to be far too much of a bite for the production lines.

Other contenders are pretty much non existant, as theyre smaller planes, some even in different classes of propulsion, etc.

Near future strategic airlifter market is up for grabs and it seems chinas new plane is very well positioned to have first bids at it.
 

montyp165

Senior Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

After having a heated argument on another forum over the Y-20 project, I do say that the heavy transport program is in some ways even more critical than some fighter programs and such, because a successful development of this program would achieve a critical mass for the Chinese aviation and powerplant industry in many areas, and that reason alone is sufficient to place a high priority on this project.
 

sydneylaide

New Member
Re: China's transport plane capacities

it is just a full scale engineering mock-up.the prototype of Y-20 is still under design and her maiden flight is scheduled for 2012.

No, it is a prototype and its maiden flight will be in 2010, next year.
 
Top