China's strategy in Korean peninsula

1. NK fully denuclearize (a condition and demand of all other parties)
2. Establish new peace mechanism on the peninsular (a specially Chinese proposal to all, and a Chinese demand on US)
3. Normalization of relationship between NK and US. (a NK demand on US and a Chinese proposal).

近日，朝鲜祖国和平统一委员会发表声明，提出发展朝韩关系的三大原则立场：民族自主、消除对同族的敌意、缓解军事紧张

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1. National self determination (US troops?).
2. End hostility to compatriots (SK vs. NK)
3. Deescalate military tension. (SK down-size drill with US? and NK reduce missile firing?)

taxiya said:

1. National self determination (US troops?).
2. End hostility to compatriots (SK vs. NK)
3. Deescalate military tension. (SK down-size drill with US? and NK reduce missile firing?)

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By: Steven Metz | Friday, June 16, 2017
As with Iraq in 2003, the U.S. military has planned and prepared for defeating North Korea militarily in great detail. But reconstructing and stabilizing the country afterward has not received enough attention. The U.S. military needs to identify what it might need to do after combat operations in a potential Korean war.

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delft said:

Point 1 is the important one. It means an end to South Korea's vasselage to the US and the removal of US forces for Korean territory.
Point 3. is the reduction in USN presence.

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Janiz said:

Those points aren't important at all as nothing will happen.

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Insignius said:

America doesn't care how the people of their lapdogs hate them.
As long as China isn't made a total slave to the US, the US will occupy South Korea.

What part of "American Empire" do you not understand? The US isn't the benevolent protector of the weak, no matter what they claim. The US is an aggressive Empire that will exploit every opening to harm their strategic rivals. As long as an independent China and Russia exist, the US will deny them their basic right to exist.

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delft said:

You think history has ended?

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Janiz said:

Is it a bad idea? I think that's how could manage it. Joining together two countries on completely different civilization level never happened and it would be too painful process for anyone to agree to do it overnight.

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U.S. and Chinese diplomatic and defense chiefs will meet Wednesday for a security dialogue that Washington says will focus on curbing North Korea's nuclear and missile programs.

The talks in Washington will involve U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis as well as China's top diplomat, State Councilor Yang Jiechi, and General Fang Fenghui, chief of state of the People’s Liberation Army, the U.S. State Department said.


It will be the inaugural session of the U.S.-China Diplomatic and Security Dialogue, a framework launched by President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping during a summit in Florida in April.

The State Department said the aim was "to expand areas of cooperation while narrowing differences on key diplomatic and security issues."

U.S.-China ties have warmed since the April summit, in spite of continued U.S. concerns about China's pursuit of territory in the South China Sea and a large trade imbalance.

Tillerson has said North Korea will top the agenda next week and made clear that Washington wanted more help from China in pressing Pyongyang to abandon its weapons programs, calling Chinese efforts so far "notable" but "uneven."

The focus on North Korea has been sharpened by dozens of North Korean missile launches and two nuclear bomb tests since the beginning of last year.

North Korea says it is working to develop a nuclear-tipped missile capable of hitting the United States, and this week Mattis called it the "most urgent" threat to U.S. national security.

China is party to U.N. economic sanctions on North Korea. But it remains the country's main ally and trading partner and has been reluctant to impose the sort of punishing measures experts say are needed to get Pyongyang to abandon its weapons programs.

In Beijing, asked about the talks, China's foreign ministry spokesman, Lu Kang, said, "The two sides are in close communication about the schedule, but the issues discussed will be those that both countries are concerned about and that involve China-U.S. relations." He did not elaborate.


On Tuesday, Tillerson said Washington was considering imposing "secondary sanctions" on foreign firms doing business with North Korea and had been in discussions with Beijing about the activities of entities inside China.

A Washington think tank said this week that North Korea's effort to circumvent sanctions was complex but could be defeated by targeting relatively few Chinese firms.

The U.N. Security Council expanded targeted sanctions against North Korea this month in the first such resolution agreed by the United States and China since Trump took office.

Washington has been pushing for even tougher steps, including an oil embargo, bans of North Korea's airline and overseas workers and interception of its cargo ships.

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Janiz said:

Those points aren't important at all as nothing will happen.

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1. National self determination (US troops?).
2. End hostility to compatriots (SK vs. NK)
3. Deescalate military tension. (SK down-size drill with US? and NK reduce missile firing?)

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1. Don't SK want self determination? Instead of foreign (US) domination?
2. Don't SK want to end hostility? Instead of shooting their own brothers and sisters from the north? And being shoot at by NK at the same time?
3. Don't SK want to deescalate military tension? Without it, the North nuke will be over their head.