China's Space Program Thread II

Overbom

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No European astronaut for the Chinese space station
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European Space Agency says it has no plans to send astronauts to China’s Tiangong space station​

  • The comments by the ESA’s director general are the first indication it is no longer interested in working with China on human space exploration
  • Josef Aschbacher says the 22 member states are focusing on their commitments to the International Space Station instead
A top official with the European Space Agency said it had no plans to send European astronauts to the newly completed Chinese space station, making it clear for the first time that the agency is no longer committed to working with China in human space flight in the near future.
“We are very busy supporting and ensuring our commitments and activities on the International Space Station,” ESA director general Josef Aschbacher told a press conference in Paris on Monday.
“We have neither the budgetary nor political greenlight or intention to engage in a second space station – that is, participating in the Chinese Space Station,” he said in response to an online question about whether ESA was still considering flying astronauts to Tiangong.
 

taxiya

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Not surprising at all. ESA made the noise(demand) of excluding Russia as a condition of further cooperation with China, apparently and not surprisingly the answer is a NO. That noise was reported and discussed in this thread not long ago. The matter isn't about whether ESA crews would have to share Tiangong with possible Russian crews, it is about principle that China would not allow anyone to blackmail China.
 
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HighGround

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Not surprising at all. ESA made the noise(demand) of excluding Russia as a condition of further cooperation with China, apparently and not surprisingly the answer is a NO. That noise was reported and discussed in this thread not long ago. The matter isn't about whether ESA crews would have to share Tiangong with possible Russian crews, it is about principle that China would not allow anyone to blackmail China.
I mean that just sounds like Europe screwing itself over, rather than harming anything China would be doing. It's a shame when politics gets in the way of scientific progress, which benefits all of humanity.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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You missed the part about the Djibouti space port with 7 pads?
@anzha did, although the news seemed to have received less attention than it deserves. Here it is:
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To sum it up:
- The spaceport is to be built at Obock, located in the northern region of Djibouti;
- HKATG and the Djiboutian government are expected to sign a formal contract with the Republic of Djibouti Spaceport;
- The signing of the formal contract will be held in March 2023;
- Construction of the spaceport will begin after the signing of the formal contract and will last for 5 years;
- The government of Djibouti is expected to provide the necessary land (minimum 10 square kilometres with a lease that runs for a minimum of 35 years; and
- HKATG and the Djiboutian government will co-manage the spaceport for a period of 30 years.
- The spaceport will be handed over to the Djiboutian government after 30 years of co-management.

The location of Obock in Djibouti, where the spaceport is expected to be built.
Djouti_Obock_spaceport3.jpg

China and Djibouti should watch out for any attempts by the US-led West in coercing and jeopardizing the project. This is a very important milestone to be achived for China, Africa and China-Africa relations, and therefore, the success of the project must be made into a reality.

Also, I was thinking that had Somalia not being embroiled in a decades-long civil war, China could have build the spaceport there instead, as the southern regions of Somalia is right on the equator.
 
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