China's Space Program Thread II

by78

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A placard for Long March 9 at IAC 2023. Flight verification for the base configuration (reusable first stage) is planned for 2033. A second variant with two reusable stages will follow sometime after, with a final Starship-like variant (again with two reusable stages) coming after that.

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nativechicken

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A placard for Long March 9 at IAC 2023. Flight verification for the base configuration (reusable first stage) is planned for 2033. A second variant with two reusable stages will follow sometime after, with a final Starship-like variant (again with two reusable stages) coming after that.

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DSEL is a purely shameful product for China's aerospace industry. It was only established in February last year as a laboratory established by CNSA, Anhui Provincial Government, and China University of Science and Technology (USTC). Various positions are temporarily recruited from society, including overall rocket planning.
DSEL has no relationship with China Aerospace Science and Technology Group. The presentation of a PowerPoint presentation at an international conference has become a joke. Unable to distinguish between basic LTO and LEO. The two small satellites carrying less than 100kg on Queqiao 2 are the products of his industry.
Under the premise of reusing the first level, LTO is 80 tons, LEO is 300 tons, and the rocket takeoff mass is over 7500 tons. Musk's starship has a takeoff mass of only 5000t. Looking forward to a takeoff mass of 5500-6000t in the future.
DSEL is a laboratory specializing in deep space loads (Tianwen's expertise lies in these loads). Now it does not study the basic knowledge and equipment of deep space well, but instead plans for China's low orbit reusable heavy rockets everywhere. And made a bunch of low-level mistakes.
 

escobar

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Latest China Space Monitor report : Significant drop in Chinese Space Fundraising in 2023
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China Satcom revealed for the first time the coverage map and specs of the ChinaSat-27 satellite, planned for launch in 2025 with 300 Gbps of capacity ️ The satellite represents the first very large GEO-HTS launched by China, and would offer coverage of large swathes of the Belt and Road including much of the African continent, parts of Europe, and the broader Asian landmass. Coverage of ChinaSat-27 is purple in the below map.
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taxiya

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A placard for Long March 9 at IAC 2023. Flight verification for the base configuration (reusable first stage) is planned for 2033. A second variant with two reusable stages will follow sometime after, with a final Starship-like variant (again with two reusable stages) coming after that.

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A very confusing placard:
  1. Which one of the three red arrows is 2033? Or everything happens somewhere after 2033?
  2. What is fixed-point returning verification? Is it like going up and down at the launch site? It seems to be literally translated from Chinese "定点返回", kind of Chinglish.
  3. Error in the 2nd phase where LTO is 100t to 150t in 2 staged configuration. It has to be LEO.
Overall, I must say that the maker of this plcard is really bad in both English and Chinese, and careless in general.

A clarification of "base configuration (reusable first stage) " in your post, the first phase in the placard seems to mean that there are two verifications, one is the basic configuration which is the 3 stage CZ-9 in full expandable mode, the other verification is the reusability for first stage only.
 
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by78

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The latest images of the No. 1 launchpad of the Hainan Commercial Spaceport.

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Construction crew at the Hainan commercial spaceport have successfully
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on the access platform/enclosure of the No. 1 launchpad. The access platform/enclosure is used to protect rockets from the elements and give ground personnel access to the rockets; it's rotated out of the way prior to launch.

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