China's Space Program Thread II

by78

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Some nice images from the prep phase of Ceres-1's launch from sea yesterday.

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by78

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Looks like there is a 2nd rocket, lying horizontally, that is getting absolutely blasted at launch.

That's not another rocket; that's a
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or a simple transport container for the Ceres-1 rocket.

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Yeah, but it looks like the TEL has a rocket in it. You can see the fairing with a flag on it.

@Andy1974, do you have any more questions? Or was your last question another one of your "light-hearted" shitposts?

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anzha

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(mostly) a paper dump. Again, if unwanted, let me know. I've been rather busy so this all built up.

A proposal to have China accede to the Moon Treaty to counter the US Artemis Accords:

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Vibration Control for constant and transient events:

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Using a neural net for autonomous landings:

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Trajectories for a flexible lander:

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Spatial distribution of rocks and craters near Chang'E 5:

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Planetary Society's run down on Chang'E 6

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Forgot one. oops. China's none too pleased about others inspecting it GEO assets:

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taxiya

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(mostly) a paper dump. Again, if unwanted, let me know. I've been rather busy so this all built up.

A proposal to have China accede to the Moon Treaty to counter the US Artemis Accords:

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Never understand why schools like NUAA ever had a faculty of law, totally waste of money.

Matter like this is totally political, not something needing a research paper.
 

Andy1974

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@Andy1974, do you have any more questions? Or was your last question another one of your "light-hearted" shitposts?

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It wasn’t light hearted, it was a genuine question, sorry you feel the need to humiliate me.

I thought the photo you posted had 2 TEL’s, so my question is not without foundation, neither of which had fairing covers or flags. I can clearly see the mechanism with your latest post. Thank you.
 
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Andy1974

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It look like we are seeing two different erected rocket on these pitures, one with a blunt nose and another with a pointed nose.
The pointy nose was inside the blunt one.

The rocket (pointy nose) is stored in a box with a lid, once the lid opens the rocket is erected by a supporting arm from within the box. The arm lifts the rocket out of the box and takes it vertical, above the launch cone, before lowering itself again to be stowed for launch.

It means whatever is in the box with lid closed, is protected from the blast of the launch. The box is immediately next to the launch cone.
 
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tphuang

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CASC will launch the first batch of Chinese starlink in Q3 this year. According to the plan, well hardly anything goes with plan in the space industry, they plan to launch 13,000 Starlink satellites in the next four year. My personal take that it is bullish enough to complete the plan until the next decade and the starlink satellites also need continuous launching due to orbit decay.

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The first launch of Chinese Starlink is expected to be in the third quarter of this year.

The core of developing satellite communication is to enhance the data transmission capability and communication coverage of China's communication satellites. Satellite orbit is a unique resource. The current number of satellites in orbit, China has about 600, while the United States has about 4,000, a large gap. In order to catch up with overseas in the field of satellites, China is actively developing the star chain program and has made plans for the launch of 10,000 satellites.

According to plan, China will launch nearly 13,000 satellites in the next four years, comparable to the launch target of SpaceX.

On civilian side, November 26, 2021, China's "G60 starlink" landed in Shanghai Songjiang, Shanghai, jointly with the Yangtze River Area 9 major cities to build the country's first satellite Internet industry cluster, a project is expected to launch more than 300 satellites, the long term planning to launch 1,000, single-satellite cost planning down 35%, G60 landing means that the domestic satellite Internet industry chain in the manufacturing side and application side further.

民用层面,2021年11月26日,我国“G60星链”落地上海松江,上海联合长三角9大城市共同打造全国首个卫星互联网产业集群,一期项目预计发射卫星300余颗,远期规划发射1000颗,单星成本规划下降35%,G60的落地意味着国内卫星互联网产业链在制造端和应用端的更进一步。

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btw, they seemed to have launched this in July?

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this would be it?
Some images from the latest Long March 2C launch, which successfully inserted a test satellite (for broadband internet) into orbit. This was the 478th flight of the Long March series.

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with the recent emphasis on HW satcom phone and the need for LEO satellite group for 6G, this chinese starlink project becomes even more interesting

also interesting that the company involved in HW's satcom phone project Hwa Create is also responsible for work here.
 

Atomicfrog

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The pointy nose was inside the blunt one.

The rocket (pointy nose) is stored in a box with a lid, once the lid opens the rocket is erected by a supporting arm from within the box. The arm lifts the rocket out of the box and takes it vertical, above the launch cone, before lowering itself again to be stowed for launch.

It means whatever is in the box with lid closed, is protected from the blast of the launch. The box is immediately next to the launch cone.
Seems that we see a blonted nose while erected on the third picture tho....
 
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