China's Space Program Thread II

taxiya

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沧龙一号

技术参数

·地面推力 600kN
·地面比冲 290s
·推力调节 可无级变推力调节
·起动次数 不低于10次
·重复使用 不低于50次
·复飞能力 3人/3小时

Gas Generator Cycle. 60t sea level. 290s impulse. more than 10 times re-ignition. More than 50 times reuse.
 

taxiya

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SpaceX's idea of what constitutes a launch pad though is kind of ridiculous.
That is a typical "re-invent the wheel". They first say they don't need a traditional launch pad with water cooling and blust trench etc. because starship is supposed to land and take off from Mars surface without a proper launch pad. Now they realize that the blust will kill the rocket anyway (as if something unkown), so they are making a more proper launch pad, but still refuse to just do what everybody else is doing. It is kind of "face saving" maneuver as "I am always right and inovative".
 

sunnymaxi

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CAS's new dropping tower with controllable electromagnetic catapult has recently started runs

Sufficient and effective ground verification is the premise and foundation of space science experiments. Recently, the electromagnetic ejection microgravity experimental device (4 seconds) developed and constructed by the Space Application Engineering and Technology Center of the Chinese Academy of Sciences started trial operation.

The device uses electromagnetic ejection to build a microgravity experimental environment on the ground, that is, the electromagnetic ejection system is used to accelerate the experimental cabin vertically to a predetermined speed and then release it. The experimental cabin provides a microgravity environment for scientific payloads during the upward throwing and falling stages. It has reached the international advanced level of 4-second microgravity time, 10μg microgravity level, overload acceleration no more than 5g, and experiment interval no more than 10 minutes, effectively solving the problems of traditional ground-based microgravity facilities such as sounding rockets, weightless aircraft, and drop towers Disadvantages such as high cost, long preparation time, and large overload.

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taxiya

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CAS's new dropping tower with controllable electromagnetic catapult has recently started runs

Sufficient and effective ground verification is the premise and foundation of space science experiments. Recently, the electromagnetic ejection microgravity experimental device (4 seconds) developed and constructed by the Space Application Engineering and Technology Center of the Chinese Academy of Sciences started trial operation.

The device uses electromagnetic ejection to build a microgravity experimental environment on the ground, that is, the electromagnetic ejection system is used to accelerate the experimental cabin vertically to a predetermined speed and then release it. The experimental cabin provides a microgravity environment for scientific payloads during the upward throwing and falling stages. It has reached the international advanced level of 4-second microgravity time, 10μg microgravity level, overload acceleration no more than 5g, and experiment interval no more than 10 minutes, effectively solving the problems of traditional ground-based microgravity facilities such as sounding rockets, weightless aircraft, and drop towers Disadvantages such as high cost, long preparation time, and large overload.

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Like many other things, China has made EM catapult another cabbage.
 

tankphobia

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That is a typical "re-invent the wheel". They first say they don't need a traditional launch pad with water cooling and blust trench etc. because starship is supposed to land and take off from Mars surface without a proper launch pad. Now they realize that the blust will kill the rocket anyway (as if something unkown), so they are making a more proper launch pad, but still refuse to just do what everybody else is doing. It is kind of "face saving" maneuver as "I am always right and inovative".
With how that launch went, I struggle to see how he expects to launch rockets off the surface of Mars, I can't imagine building any sort of launch facility on Mars to be possible without another lifetime worth of technology advancements. Even then there's close to no point of actually doing it.
 

taxiya

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With how that launch went, I struggle to see how he expects to launch rockets off the surface of Mars, I can't imagine building any sort of launch facility on Mars to be possible without another lifetime worth of technology advancements. Even then there's close to no point of actually doing it.
Elon is "great" in human group-psychologies (aka stupidities), by the time some human lift off from Mars surface, most people have forgoten all the crazy "inovations" from Elon, but only the word brave forward thinking pioneer is left in memory. General public has near zero long term memory and scientific knowledge.

Primary example, how many Americans and to a large extent the rest of the world think and know that the Apollo program is based on Germany rocketry and even German scientists?
 
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by78

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Shenzhou-16 crew has just completed an eight-hour long spacewalk. They apparently installed/modified the space station's external panoramic cameras. Some high-resolution images.

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by78

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A KZ-1A rocket has successfully launched four meteorological satellites for the Tianmu-1 constellation (天目一号气象星座), which is a atmospheric science constellation.

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This was the 21st launch of KZ-1A. Here's a collage of previous launches.
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