China's Space Program News Thread

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The CZ-3B rocket that launched the FY-4B weather satellite was used to test a parafoil recovery system (yellow circle). The parafoil with an area of 300 square meters was attached to one of the boosters to control its descent after separation. The parafoil was designed to reduce the booster's possible landing zone by 30%, and the test was a success.

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by78

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An update from i-Space (aka Interstellar Glory), the private launch vehicle company. The Hyperbola-III reusable rockets have passed the design review process. It will now enter the formal demonstration stage, where prototypes will be built and tested. The Hyperbola-III is planned to enter commercial service in 2024.

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SimaQian

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For so long time no any news and pics from rover, and now publishing pic from orbiter with rover just beside lander. After rover went few meters from lander, there were no more pics for so long time... Is it possible that they maybe lost control over rover??
Or maybe they are collecting and saving pics and data for 100th anniversary celebration of CCP to publish it all in big maner? :)
It could be. But most likely no. It is working fine. It just science and engineering thats limiting data transmission.

1.) Remember this is China's first time going to Mars. So only 1 Chinese orbiter is out there versus at least 3 for US.

2.) These orbiters circles mars at very high speed. The time window the orbiter and the lander or rover have line of sight with each other is very limited. Maybe less than 30 minutes data transmission and probably cannot very be more than an hour.

3.) The ave distance between mars and earth is 300M km+. So that means the signal to noise ratio is very small which translates to very slow data transmission speed. The farther the radio signal is away from earth, the signal becomes very weak, remember the high school inverse of the square of distance. This is the limiting factor of those deep space missions. Definitely not a wifi speed like we have at home.

4.) Lastly there are few earth ground stations that receives those Chinese mars signals. I think some in China and one in Chile. So taking account the rotation of earth and rotation of mars, there is also a time window needed for the singal to align with the mars orbiter and earth stations.

So we see, the CNSA is very selective what picture or data to send from mars to earth. Definitely we dont get a tiktok quality video. Most likely gray pictures, with one picture or two per day.

It is just an engineering challenge to send something 1 mars away.
 
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KampfAlwin

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Chinese chipset seems to work well enough on the moon and mars…..

just saying…..
I remember reading up an article here sent by someone that gave a developmental summary of China’s radiation-hardened chips which are now world-leading since it was sanctioned early on. So her saying China’s space grade chips are of low quality is weird…

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anzha

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I remember reading up an article here sent by someone that gave a developmental summary of China’s radiation-hardened chips which are now world-leading since it was sanctioned early on. So her saying China’s space grade chips are of low quality is weird…

Russians talking smack about Chinese tech. I'm shocked! Shocked! Totally shocked, I tell you!
 

weig2000

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The US started to sanction China's aerospace industry back in the '90s, prohibiting anyone from using Chinese satellite launch services if the satellite was built by the US or contained any US components. That was a big blow to China's then burgeoning satellite launch service because the US dominated the international satellite market at the time. Since then, China has embarked on a journey to develop its own completely self-sufficient aerospace industry. We can all see the results of that effort today. In the meantime, many foreign companies tried to design out the US components if possible. The complete decoupling of US and China aerospace industries were consummated in 2011 when the Wolf Amendment was passed by Congress.

Sounds familiar? Well, that is because it's what exactly is happening right now in tech industry, particularly in semiconductor industry. We should expect China's semiconductor industry to become self-sufficient in 5-10 years. Granted, the tech industry won't decouple as completely as aerospace industry because its global and commercial nature, and the US is nowhere near as dominant in tech industry. But China will control the destiny of its own tech industry, that much we can be sure from the history of the aerospace industry.
 
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Richard Santos

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The Russian space program is
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. It is seen by a large family of corrupt subcontractors as a a font of government largess and easy foreign currency. Often times external factors are used to explain what really are failures resulting from internal corruption.

the corruption of the Russian space program is also a good reason to expect very little from Russia in any large long term space exploration collaborations.
 
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