China's Space Program News Thread

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davidau

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Agree with your point of long duration experiences in space gained by the Russian Cosmonauts. I think in other areas, eg automously docking of the cargo ship Shengzhou 2 has demonstrated that China is well advanced and ahead of the US and Russia,
A slip of the pen, Shengzhou 2 should read Tianzhou 2, the cargo supply ship.
 

ougoah

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I don't think it's that easy to measure how Roscosmos and NASA offer less space science capability. Just because priorities are different doesn't take away the main point being raised. That being, any "less capable" partner has little to offer in the sphere of tech. This isn't the case with Roscosmos and CNSA because Russia has plenty of tech to offer not to mention being a capable partner because it would mean getting things done faster if cooperation allows.

ESA has done a lot of deep space scientific missions compared to China certainly. They were launching things when China could barely launch a potato into space. Their funding and political motivations are different to China's or US and Russia's for that matter

This whole sidetracking has become an ESA fanboying attempt. ESA is highly competent. It's irrelevant to the core discussion. There is no point being made wrt core discussion of partner agencies.

On that topic, a "less capable" partner agency definitely still has value beyond just helping out with financing projects. A junior colleague less knowledgeable and experienced still has immense value. If they didn't no such thing would exist.

The question is actually undeterminable with pointless speculation because no one knows the sensitivity and details of any propose cooperation.
 

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Lander and rover in the upper right corner. Parachute is in the center-right position on the image.
 

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For so long time no any news and pics from rover, and now publishing pic from orbiter with rover just beside lander. After rover went few meters from lander, there were no more pics for so long time... Is it possible that they maybe lost control over rover??
Or maybe they are collecting and saving pics and data for 100th anniversary celebration of CCP to publish it all in big maner? :)
 

siegecrossbow

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For so long time no any news and pics from rover, and now publishing pic from orbiter with rover just beside lander. After rover went few meters from lander, there were no more pics for so long time... Is it possible that they maybe lost control over rover??
Or maybe they are collecting and saving pics and data for 100th anniversary celebration of CCP to publish it all in big maner? :)

Be patient. According to CNSA the Zhurong rover has already started gathering scientific data from Mars after deploying its scientific payload.

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Richard Santos

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china should try to image and publish photos of other countries successfully landed, or crashed hardware on mars. There are multiple types of propaganda value to saying “I can see you”. these range from “i can keep tabs on you” to “i can help you out if your mission runs into trouble”. America did it when the Chinese landed on the moon, and also track down long abandoned Soviet Luna rovers
 
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Be patient. According to CNSA the Zhurong rover has already started gathering scientific data from Mars after deploying its scientific payload.

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Look at the flaring effect of the lander retro rockets (upward and downward) and the dark halo around it on the Martian surface!

This is the first time I've seen such a flaring/halo effect on the Martian surface.

Some of NASA's probes/landers also use retro rockets for landing but as far as I can recall there's no picture from orbit showing the landing site before and after the landing of the lander/probe particularly showing this effect.
 
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Richard Santos

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The scale suggest the dark halo is 200 meters across, that seems very large for the blast from the probe’s descent and landing engines.

Perhaps the thin air and low gravity on Mars allows the particles kicked up by the blast to travel much further than would be the case on earth.

It also suggest the rover might need to move a fair distance before it can sample pristine Martian surface material.
 

siegecrossbow

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The scale suggest the dark halo is 200 meters across, that seems very large for the blast from the probe’s descent and landing engines.

Perhaps the thin air and low gravity on Mars allows the particles kicked up by the blast to travel much further than would be the case on earth.

It also suggest the rover might need to move a fair distance before it can sample pristine Martian surface material.

This is the reason the lunar sample return mission needed a scoop to get soil sample that hasn’t been contaminated by the exhaust.
 
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