China's Space Program News Thread

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escobar

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Gaofen-3 C-Band SAR sat launched...
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Blackstone

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What do you mean they might not be able to make them? This stuff is 35 year old technology, and you are insinuating this is somehow a monumental hurdle.

I question your underlying motives for asking these types of questions, TBH.
Just because heat tile technology is more than 30 years old doesn't mean China could make them. Consider US had Saturn rocket engines in the 1960s, landed men on the moon, and returned them back home safely in 1969. It's a safe bet China can't do it today. Maybe in the future, but not today. So, just because the technology is generations old, doesn't mean they could be made today, if one doesn't have the supporting industries.
 

PikeCowboy

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fair enough but why does the heat resistant tiles stand out specifically as one thing that China can't make compared to all the other things that China probably can't make yet... like the hybrid engine for example lol

i.e why is this a hurdle more than all the other hurdles?
 

Blackstone

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fair enough but why does the heat resistant tiles stand out specifically as one thing that China can't make compared to all the other things that China probably can't make yet... like the hybrid engine for example lol

i.e why is this a hurdle more than all the other hurdles?
The topic was spaceplane, and I mentioned tiles. It's quite possible China can or can't make dependable hybrid engines and/or other spaceplane systems. My point was we need more facts and shouldn't take things on rumors or excessive entheusiasm.
 

Skywatcher

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Just because heat tile technology is more than 30 years old doesn't mean China could make them. Consider US had Saturn rocket engines in the 1960s, landed men on the moon, and returned them back home safely in 1969. It's a safe bet China can't do it today. Maybe in the future, but not today. So, just because the technology is generations old, doesn't mean they could be made today, if one doesn't have the supporting industries.

Umm, China's already made lightweight and strong thermal shielding for things like ICBM warheads, scramjets and the Shenzhou reentry capsules.
 

Blackstone

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Umm, China's already made lightweight and strong thermal shielding for things like ICBM warheads, scramjets and the Shenzhou reentry capsules.
True, but spaceplanes that make repeated trips use heat tiles and not the heavy metal shields on Shenzhou capsules. We haven't heard much on China's version of the Space Shuttle, so I ask the obvious question if its space industry could make all the systems, subsystems, and hi-rel components that go into something as complex as spaceplanes.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Blackstone, I remind you of a few little facts I think you are overlooking.
  1. The US was not the Only shuttle builder. The Russians Who have shared a number of Space Technologies Also ran a shuttle program. Although less successful The Russians Launched a full shuttle and a number of smaller BORS4 Demonstrators with heat shields a number of which landed in the Pacific and are unaccounted.
  2. In addition To the US and Russia, a number of nations and agencies including The EU Space program, India and Japan not only studied but in some cases flew demonstration flights.
  3. Along with National programs Commercial Programs All of which need some degree of heat shield.
  4. The Chinese Shuttle program dates back atleast as far as 1992 This means that the CNSA has had over 20 years to work on there own heat shield In addition the Chinese have been working extensively on Hyper sonic Glide vehicles. These HSG's need some form of Thermal protection.
All of Which I think makes a pretty strong Circumstantial argument for The CNSA having at least easy access to a Thermal protection Tile system in some degree of TRL. Whether from Abroad via Technology share from Europe or Russia who have been more willing than the US to work with the CNSA. Or Reverse Engineering of Foreign systems procured though subterfuge or Commercial Access or even pure indigenous development.
 
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