China's Space Program News Thread

[TerraN_EmpirE]

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Blacks Carbon-based tiles?

Considering this was likely a Drop test, then No.
However They do line up with where a Heat shield on a lifting body would be. The Russian Soyuz uses a Fabric thermal protection system which is fine for a Blunt body entry vehicle but this is a glide vehicle that demands a more Streamlined and seamless Thermal protection system. If this vehicle is representative of a Finished product then Yes Carbon black nose and under body as well as Tail tiles. Farther more the Grey and white would also be forms of Thermal Tiles. Both the Russian Boran and US Shuttle used multiple Types of Tiles the Black High-temperature reusable surface insulation (HRSI) The off White Low-temperature reusable surface insulation (LRSI) the White Nomex Felt Reusable Surface Insulation (FRSI) and the Grey Reinforced Carbon-Carbon (RCC)

If we look here we see Black, Grey and White.

 

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The KM8 space environment simulator of China Academy of Space Technology (CAST), a subsidiary of China Aerospace Science & Technology Corporation (CASC), formally completed its commissioning the other day, which marked the completion of the Tianjin Large Spacecraft AIT Center construction.

Tianjin Large Spacecraft AIT Center will be the major site for the assembly, integration and testing of China’s new generation large spacecraft. The AIT of China’s new generation large spacecraft including the space station will be performed here.

The building area of the AIT Center is about 100,000 square meters. It will be the world’s largest spacecraft AIT center after acceptance. The KM8, with a diameter of 17 meters and a height of 35 meters, is Asia’s largest and world’s third largest space environment simulator, the capacity of the electric vibration test system ranks top in the world; the center is equipped with the acoustic test facility of 4000 cube meters, with a sound pressure level of 156 decibel.

According to the plan, China’s space station will be completed around the year of 2020. At present, part of its assembly and test work is being performed steadily in this AIT center.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I don't believe how to make heat resistant tiles like on the space shuttle is some big secret. I recall watching some TV show, maybe Mythbusters, where they made their own lightweight Styrofoam-like heat resistant tiles that they said were like on the space shuttle for some experiment they were doing.

 

[tidalwave]

Why China still can't produce a rocket that have enough thrust going to Moon like the Saturn V made in 70s?
They said Long March 9 is equivalent of Saturn V , which is another 10 yrs.

Rocket is supposedly China biggest strength yet its still so much behind.

 

[longmarch]

What's wrong with OP's tone? Your rant really came from nowhere.

The project is officially approved, a big milestone by itself. If there is any perceived technical blocker, they wouldn't get the approval. They could be wrong but we have to assume they know what they are doing when there is no evidence saying otherwise. Lots of money is at stake.

@vesicles- I'm answering yours because you're generally reasonable and present balanced views. My snarky statement was in part jesting, and the entire reply to the OP was in the spirit of his tone. Nevertheless, you're right on not insulting fellow poster without cause.

 

[longmarch]

Because China is not racing with any one and wants to make its space industry more sustainable.There are already enough things to keep them busy till 2020.

Why China still can't produce a rocket that have enough thrust going to Moon like the Saturn V made in 70s?
They said Long March 9 is equivalent of Saturn V , which is another 10 yrs.

Rocket is supposedly China biggest strength yet its still so much behind.

 

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Tiantong-1-01 mobile comsat launched....

 

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Tiantong-1...

 

[Jeff Head]

Why China still can't produce a rocket that have enough thrust going to Moon like the Saturn V made in 70s?
They said Long March 9 is equivalent of Saturn V , which is another 10 yrs.

Rocket is supposedly China biggest strength yet its still so much behind.

What the US did in the 1960s with the Saturn V and the entire Apollo project was simply amazing...almost miraculous.

But then we stepped back.

Yes the shuttle was neat and a great thing. Yes the Space Station is much needed and the Rovers on Mars and all.

But the US stepped back at a time when they were poised to be able to establish outposts on the moon,,,and then Mars.

We are just getting back to seriously considering moving on now, and it is a hard thing in today's dollars and today's thinking.

But I am convinced that if the US continues with the Orion spacecraft, the SLS, and the new rovers and other items currently now on the table and in design...some of them well along in design...that we can get back to the moon, to Mars and the asteroids in the 20-30s...still fifteen years away,

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Why China still can't produce a rocket that have enough thrust going to Moon like the Saturn V made in 70s?
They said Long March 9 is equivalent of Saturn V , which is another 10 yrs.

Rocket is supposedly China biggest strength yet its still so much behind.

Check how much NASA spend on the program vs How much China spend on their space program.
It is way much smaller not even 1/10 of US if my memory serve me right.
Until couple year ago the total spending is 3 billion US $

Plus China is not competing with anybody unlike the day of Saturn rocket when US is competing with Soviet Union