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well, a new set of weather satellites. I think these are part of the satellite network stated by SOC that could provide ship targeting
China launches new geostationary weather satellite

2008-12-23

BEIJING -- China launched its third geo-stationary meteorological satellite, the Fengyun-2-06, Tuesday morning.

The satellite was launched on a Long March-3A carrier rocket from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwestern Sichuan Province at 8:54 am. (Beijing Time).

It entered the preset orbit 24 minutes later.

The 1,390-kilogram satellite, developed by the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology affiliated to the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, was able to acquire data from the ground, the ocean and space for the China Meteorological Administration (CMA).

Its predecessors, Fengyun-2-04 and -05, was launched in 2004 and 2006 respectively. The Fengyun-2-06 was to become a successor to boost the stability of the satellite series and would play an important role in weather forecast for China and neighboring countries and in disaster reduction, said the CMA.

It would also help enhance China's cooperation with international meteorological organizations.
 

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Gents, I found thia photo at sina.com.

Just what is it? Is this a future Chinese space shuttle? Looks similar in design to the space shuttle in the film "Superman returns".

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Isn't this what is complained about China's space program? No separation of church and state.

Obama Moves to Counter China With Pentagon-NASA Link
Demian McLean Demian Mclean
Fri Jan 2, 3:58 pm ET

Jan. 2 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama will probably tear down long-standing barriers between the U.S.’s civilian and military space programs to speed up a mission to the moon amid the prospect of a new space race with China.

Obama’s transition team is considering a collaboration between the Defense Department and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration because military rockets may be cheaper and ready sooner than the space agency’s planned launch vehicle, which isn’t slated to fly until 2015, according to people who’ve discussed the idea with the Obama team.

The potential change comes as Pentagon concerns are rising over China’s space ambitions because of what is perceived as an eventual threat to U.S. defense satellites, the lofty battlefield eyes of the military.

“The Obama administration will have all those issues on the table,” said Neal Lane, who served as President Bill Clinton’s science adviser and wrote recently that Obama must make early decisions critical to retaining U.S. space dominance. “The foreign affairs and national security implications have to be considered.”

China, which destroyed one of its aging satellites in a surprise missile test in 2007, is making strides in its spaceflight program. The military-run effort carried out a first spacewalk in September and aims to land a robotic rover on the moon in 2012, with a human mission several years later.

A Level of Proficiency

“If China puts a man on the moon, that in itself isn’t necessarily a threat to the U.S.,” said Dean Cheng, a senior Asia analyst with CNA Corp., an Alexandria, Virginia-based national-security research firm. “But it would suggest that China had reached a level of proficiency in space comparable to that of the United States.”

Obama has said the Pentagon’s space program -- which spent about $22 billion in fiscal year 2008, almost a third more than NASA’s budget -- could be tapped to speed the civilian agency toward its goals as the recession pressures federal spending.

NASA faces a five-year gap between the retirement of the space shuttle in 2010 and the first launch of Orion, the six- person craft that will carry astronauts to the International Space Station and eventually the moon. Obama has said he would like to narrow that gap, during which the U.S. will pay Russia to ferry astronauts to the station.

NASA Resistance

The Obama team has asked NASA officials about the costs and savings of scrapping the agency’s new Ares I rocket, which is being developed by Chicago-based Boeing Co. and Minneapolis- based Alliant Techsystems Inc.

NASA chief Michael Griffin opposes the idea and told Obama’s transition team leader, Lori Garver, that her colleagues lack the engineering background to evaluate rocket options, agency spokesman Chris Shank said.

“The NASA review team is just asking questions; no decisions have been made,” said Nick Shapiro, a transition spokesman for Obama. The team will pass its finding on to presidential appointees, said Shapiro.

At the Pentagon, there may be support for combining launch vehicles. While NASA hasn’t recently approached the Pentagon about using its Delta IV and Atlas V rockets, building them for manned missions could allow for cost sharing, said Steven Huybrechts, the director of space programs and policy in the office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who is staying on into the new administration.

The Delta IV and Atlas V are built by United Launch Alliance, a joint venture of Boeing and Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed Martin Corp., and typically are used to carry satellites.

Already Developed

“No one really has a firm idea what NASA’s cost savings might be, but the military’s launch vehicles are basically developed,” said John Logsdon, a policy expert at Washington’s National Air and Space Museum who has conferred with Obama’s transition advisers. “You don’t have to build them from scratch.”

Meanwhile, Chinese state-owned companies already are assembling heavy-lift rockets that could reach the moon, with a first launch scheduled for 2013. All that would be left to build for a manned mission is an Apollo-style lunar lander, said Griffin, who visited the Chinese space program in 2006.

Moon Landing

Griffin said in July that he believes China will be able to put people on the moon before the U.S. goes back in 2020. The last Apollo mission left the lunar surface in 1972.

“The moon landing is an extremely challenging and sophisticated task, and it is also a strategically important technological field,” Wang Zhaoyao, a spokesman for China’s space program, said in September, according to the state-run Xinhua news agency.

China plans to dock two spacecraft in orbit in 2010, a skill required for a lunar mission.

“An automated rendezvous does all sorts of things for your missile accuracy and anti-satellite programs,” said John Sheldon, a visiting professor of advanced air and space studies at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. “The manned effort is about prestige, but it’s also a good way of testing technologies that have defense applications.”

China’s investments in anti-satellite warfare and in “cyberwarfare,” ballistic missiles and other weaponry “could threaten the United States’ primary means to project its power and help its allies in the Pacific: bases, air and sea assets, and the networks that support them,” Gates wrote in the current issue of Foreign Affairs magazine.

Anti-Satellite Warfare

China is designing satellites that, once launched, could catch up with and destroy U.S. spy and communication satellites, said a Nov. 20 report to Congress from the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. China’s State Council Information Office declined to comment on the nation’s anti- satellite or manned programs.

To boost cooperation between NASA and the Pentagon, Obama has promised to revive the National Aeronautics and Space Council, which oversaw the entire space arena for four presidents, most actively from 1958 to 1973.

The move would build ties between agencies with different cultures and agendas.

“Whether such cooperation would succeed remains to be seen,” said Scott Pace, a former NASA official who heads the Washington-based Space Policy Institute. “But the questions are exactly the ones the Obama team needs to ask.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Demian McLean in Washington at [email protected] .

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Shenzhou-7 Monitor Satellite Finishes Mission After 100 Days In Space
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Beijing (XNA) Jan 06, 2009
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The accompanying satellite of Shenzhou-7 orbital module has accomplished its preset mission after 100 days in space, the Beijing Aerospace Control Center (BACC) said on Sunday.

This achievement marks China's "preliminary mastery of satellite monitor technology," the center said. Since there are still some extra fuel left, the satellite will continue its flight for more scientific experiments.

After being released on Sept. 26, one day after China's third manned spacecraft was launched, the accompanying satellite was adjusted 13 times through engine ignitions so that it could focus on the orbital module of Shenzhou-7.

The center said the accompanying satellite has being flying around the orbital module in an elliptical circle, with the farthest distance of 7.6 kilometers and the nearest of 3.8 kilometers.

The satellite has sent back thousands of high-quality pictures of the orbital module, which were captured by its two cameras.

According to the center, the three Taikonauts aboard Shenzhou-7-- Zhai Zhigang, Liu Boming and Jing Haipeng - have ended their tours across the country, and they will continue their regular training course to prepare for the establishment of China's first space station.

China successfully launched the Shenzhou-7 spacecraft on Sept.25 last year, making it the third country in the world to conduct extravehicular activity (EVA) in space following the former Soviet Union and the United States.

Ship back from mission of tracking Shenzhou VII space flight
The Yuanwang V ship returned to a China port after a 117-day mission of remotely tracking the Shenzhou VII space flight which blast off in late September.

The return signaled the completion of the tracking mission by five ships for support of China's first space walk.

The ships, Yuanwang I,II, III, V and VI, set sail Aug. 18 last year and traversed nearly 100,000 sea miles in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.

China successfully launched the Shenzhou VII manned spacecraft on Sept. 25. During the 68-hour flight, taikonaut Zhai Zhigang, wearing a domestically made Feitian space suit, conducted a 20-minute space walk. China became the third nation to conduct a space walk, after Russia and the United States.

The ships monitored the entire space walk and also kept tabs on the depressurization of the orbital module when the taikonaut left and re-entered the spaceship.

They also controlled the shuttle's solar panels, its orbit maneuvers and maintenance.

"In previous missions, including the Shenzhou V and Shenzhou VImissions, only four tracking ships were deployed," said Jian Shilong, director with the China Maritime Tracking and Control Department. "We added one more to the Shenzhou VII mission to monitor the taikonaut's extra-vehicular activities."

In all, China boasts a fleet of six Yuanwang space tracking ships which have carried out some 70 expeditions and traveled more than 1.5 million sea miles in the Pacific, Atlantic and Indian oceans.

The tracking ships constitute China's space telemetry network together with some 20 terrestrial surveying station.
 

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China-Russia Mars mission set for takeoff
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Hong Kong (UPI) Jan 5, 2009
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The first joint Chinese-Russian mission to Mars is set to take off in October and reach the red planet in August 2010, an exploration project designer said.

A Russian Zenit rocket will launch a Chinese Yinghuo-1 satellite and a Russian Phobos-Grunt unmanned lander, Chen Changya, chief designer of the China-Russia Mars exploration project, told Hong Kong's Wen Wei Po newspaper.

Phobos-Grunt is expected to study Mars from orbit, including its atmosphere and dust storms, plasma and radiation, before landing on Phobos, one of Mars' two small moons.

Yinghuo-1, which means Firefly-1, will explore the Martian environment and carry out research into how surface water on the planet disappeared, Chen said.

A challenge for Yinghuo-1 during the yearlong mission will be seven periods of 8.8 hours in darkness, when the sun will be obscured by the red planet and the satellite will not receive solar energy, Chen said.

During those times, Yinghuo-1 will go into "sleeping" status and restart itself after getting through each shadow.

Researchers are still looking at ways to help the satellite sustain extremely low temperatures, plunging to minus 200 degrees Celsius, or about minus 328 degree Fahrenheit, in the shadows, Chen said.

Meanwhile, China's second unmanned moon probe, Chang'e-2, is likely to be launched this year, a year ahead of schedule, the newspaper said.

Chang'e-2 will collect more detailed images and statistics of the moon's surface, the newspaper said.

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A challenge for Yinghuo-1 during the yearlong mission will be seven periods of 8.8 hours in darkness, when the sun will be obscured by the red planet and the satellite will not receive solar energy, Chen said.
That's similar to what satellites in GEO encounter, so I wonder if this spacecraft will have a Mars Stationary Orbit.
 

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Loo goes boldly up your bum. (Ouch .... visit the above site and see an example of the bottle boy I wouldnt want that shoved up where the sun dont shine)

By HARRY HAYDON

While NASA have spent millions developing space-age loos for their pampered astronauts, Chinese boffins have come up with this much simpler method.

Unpleasant gas

Jin – chief engineer at the Hong Kong International Medical Devices Company – explained current vacuum operated space lavatories all leak.
"They not only generate a lot of unpleasant gas, but can be harmful to the internal organs," he said.
Now the new bottle loo is being put through its paces by medics on China's space programme before being used in its upcoming manned mission.
Jin's boffins have road tested the new loo with thousands of volunteers at his company's labs.
"It’s not uncomfortable as it does not go deep inside so it is absolutely pain free and harmless," he explained.
 

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China space program is progressingly well.

China making leaps in space
By Peter J Brown

In 2009, China will be pursuing its ambitious plans for space in all sorts of ways. But in terms of missions and milestones, China will find it quite hard to surpass the stellar success of the spacewalk during the Shenzhou 7 mission in September. China ended 2008 with 11 successful launches, and set a new record for launches in a single year. China intends to set another new record this year.

At least four new BeiDou-2 (Compass) satellites will be launched in 2009 by the team at the China Satellite Navigation Project Center. And a Russian launch vehicle will carry a Chinese micro-satellite into space in late 2009. If everything goes according to plan, Yinghuo-1, China's first Mars probe, will be another noteworthy achievement for the Shanghai Institute of Satellite Engineering.

"I would expect China to maintain its steady pace of deploying and maintaining constellations of unmanned satellites for practical applications such as weather, communication, and navigation," said Scott Pace, director of George Washington University's Space Policy Institute. "I would also expect to see them increase their involvement in multilateral cooperative efforts such as environmental monitoring, communications standards, and unmanned lunar exploration."

According to a report issued last year by Paris-based Euroconsult, "World Prospects for Government Space Markets", the China National Space Administration's (CNSA) current budget is about US$1.3 billion, up 6% from 2007. Launch vehicle development accounts for 25% of the estimated overall budget followed by human spaceflight and Earth observation, with 20% each of overall Chinese investment. Satellite navigation and satellite communications both represent about 10% of the Chinese space budget.

China's Earth observation budget was estimated at $260 million in 2007 and is growing steadily from the $160 million in 2003. Although satellites are marked as civil government expenditure, China's program no doubt includes many military surveillance satellites, and Euroconsult reports budgets through 2012 will at least hold steady. China's "HJ" fleet of Earth observation satellites equipped with radar or optical sensors will continue to grow over the next three years. Expansion of China's maritime surveillance satellite fleet also continues with the launch in 2009 of Haiyang-2, China's third maritime surveillance satellite.

As for the joint China-Brazil Earth Resources Satellite (CBERS) Program, Brazil is increasing its contribution to the program from 30% for the two existing satellites to 50-80% for CBERS-3 and 4 which are now being tested. These will be launched perhaps in 2010 and 2012. Brazilian investment in these programs increased to $71 million in 2007 from $46 million in 2006, according to Euroconsult.

The often heated debate about whether or not China's space program is strictly a military operation with a few civilian elements will continue in 2009.

China's BX-1 companion satellite's close pass of the International Space Station during the Shenzhou 7 mission sparked the latest round in this debate. But conflicting statements by Ye Peijian, chief commander and designer of China's first lunar explorer - the Chang'e 1, which was launched in 2007 - and by Hu Hao, director of the National Defense Commission's Lunar Exploration Program Center, went largely unnoticed earlier last year.

In late February,2008, Ye Peijian disclosed during an interview aired on China Central TV that China was planning to launch its second lunar probe, Chang'e 2, in 2009. He did not provide any details. Following Chang'e 2, China's next moon missions include deploying of a lunar rover around 2012 followed by a second lunar rover in 2017.

Only a few days later, Hu Hao told the People's Daily, "Chang'e 1's backup satellite was being upgraded, and designated as Chang'e 2 [and] that currently there is no specific timetable for Chang'e 2's launch."

Why the director of the National Defense Commission's Lunar Exploration Program Center felt compelled to set the record straight in this instance is unclear. After all, Ouyang Ziyuan, chief scientist of China's lunar exploration project, had been interviewed by CRI in December 2007 about the Chang'e 1 backup spacecraft. He did not mention an onboard systems upgrade nor any specific launch date, but he said that once renamed and launched as Chang'e 2, it would not be subjected to the complex maneuvers that Chang'e 1 went through, and, that Chang'e 2's orbit around the moon and its altitude would be different as well.

These interviews regarding Chang'e 2 provide further evidence that China's military - the space wing of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) - is firmly in charge, but they also suggest that coordination and communication between branches or agencies within China's space program are sometimes lacking. But this is a viewpoint that many might not accept, as it somewhat mirrors the "rogue operation" theory which surfaced during China's 2007 anti-satellite (ASAT) test - something that critics portrayed as pure fiction.

Remarks by China's President Hu Jintao during the celebration in December of the 30th anniversary of China's economic reforms suggest that China recognizes the need for greater transparency in all sectors. However, this in itself is no guarantee that the Chinese space program will suddenly become more transparent in 2009.

Several incidents over the past five years indicate that China's space culture is quite comfortable working behind closed doors. In September 2003, for example, the official Xinhua news agency reported that China had successfully tested its Pioneer 1 rocket, China's "first four-stage solid-fuel rocket capable of putting small satellites into space on short notice". It took almost two years for the truth to come out that the Pioneer I rocket launch at China's Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center had failed in 2003. In late 2006, the loss of the Sinosat-2 satellite was subjected to a news blackout lasting almost a month. And in 2008, when a Chinese-built Nigerian communications satellite stopped working, it took several days before the true status of this malfunctioning satellite was revealed.

Rapidly replacing that lost satellite capacity in Africa is one of China's and specifically, China Great Wall Industries Corp's (CGWIC), top overseas satellite priorities for 2009. CGWIC, the space launch services and satellite export arm of the Chinese government, is actively engaged with partners all over the world. That said, it remains a relatively closed enterprise. A spokeswoman for CGWIC would not share any of the company's plans for 2009.

"Your questions are mostly concerning the future working plan of China Space and CGWIC, and considering we usually only announce the work we had done, I can not reply your questions in your previous letters for now," she replied via e-mail.

One can quite easily contrast the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration's (NASA) acceptance of the need for transparency with China's seeming reluctance to go down the same path. Here is a excellent case in point. China's desire to make great strides in manned spaceflight in particular is quite apparent, and in 2009, China will be able to closely study additional details about the 2003 Space Shuttle Columbia disaster now that NASA has released its new 400-page report on this disaster. While some objected to the decision by NASA to disclose this information in the closing days of 2008, it happened anyway.

John Logsdon, for example, former director of GWU's Space Policy Institute and a member of the original Columbia accident investigation board, objected to NASA's decision, but not because its release might somehow benefit China. "Those people are dead. Knowing in specifics how they died should be a private matter," Logsdon told the Associated Press.

Although no Chinese manned spaceflights are scheduled for 2009, the NASA report - following on the heels of Russia's analysis of the recent violent landing of a Soyuz capsule in April, 2008 - may aid the Chinese as they seek to identify better "taikonaut" safety procedures and equipment options for future Shenzhou missions or other flights returning from a Chinese space station when that appears in the next decade.

As for the exercise in relationship-building between NASA and CNSA which commenced in 2006 and evolved into a formal Working Group in early 2008, this is a delicate ongoing process involving "potential areas of future cooperation". Under the NASA-CNSA working group, cordial exchanges are taking place, but it would be wrong and misleading to characterize them as substantive and somehow aimed at achieving any specific objectives. Will the next NASA administrator get together with CNSA administrator Sun Laiyan at CNSA headquarters or elsewhere in 2009? That remains to be seen, although it might be a good idea to have this happen sooner than later.

"US-China competition on any aspect of peaceful space development, whether real or a media creation, is detrimental to both terrestrial relations between the two and the sustainability of space development," said Brian Weeden, technical consultant at the Colorado-based Secure World Foundation. "I would encourage the incoming US administration to look for topics of possible cooperation and engagement with China on space issues in the scientific or civil realm. There are plenty of areas of common interest, including climate change research, space weather, disaster management, and the long-term effects of microgravity on humans, where cooperation would be beneficial to both the US and China."

As far as China and the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (UN COPUOS) is concerned, China has nothing to lose in 2009 by quickly compelling the incoming Barack Obama administration to openly demonstrate its willingness to depart from previous George W Bush administration positions. In terms of recent UN votes on ASAT-related matters, for example, a united effort by China, Russia and others to bring measures to a vote that in turn isolate the US have been remarkably successful, including one in late 2008 where the US stood completely alone in its opposition to the proposed measure.

"The larger unknowns to me are whether the Chinese will make progress on a heavy-lift Long March 5 in the coming year and whether they will conduct another ASAT test. On the latter, I would hope they don't - but that if they do - then they will take steps to avoid creating even more space debris which are such a threat to all space-faring nations," said Pace.

Although there is no sign that as 2009 gets underway of any overseas Chinese space scientists and engineers seeking to return to China, an announcement during the 11th Convention of Overseas Chinese Scholars in Science and Technology which was held in Guangzhou in late December is worth noting. A financial incentive of up to 5 million yuan (US$731,000), among other things, will be offered to overseas Chinese entrepreneurs and professionals who settle in Guangzhou and open new businesses. For this reason, it will be interesting to see if any new aerospace ventures arise there in 2009.

Keep in mind much was said in 2008 about how many Indian space scientists and engineers who had been living abroad were now expressing a strong interest in returning home to join the ranks of the India Space Research Organization (ISRO) following the launch of ISRO's Chandrayaan-1 lunar probe.

Another reason why China may be eager to attract new talent involves ongoing efforts to create new satellite applications. The mass devastation caused by the May 2008 earthquake in Sichuan looms large here. In 2009, China is placing considerable emphasis in particular on developing and deploying new satellite-based resources for domestic disaster management and emergency relief operations.

At the same time, however, this activity has obvious dual-use implications as many of these new applications might be well suited for use on the battlefield, too.

In mid-December, China, Japan and South Korea announced that they will "enhance cooperation in developing a comprehensive disaster management framework, working out measures to reduce vulnerability to disaster and minimize its damage, and strengthening effective disaster management at the national, local and community levels, according to the joint statement," according to an official Xinhua news report.

Exactly how this new framework will fit in with other ongoing regional efforts such as the Disaster Management Support System taking shape as part of the broader "Sentinel Asia" initiative is unclear.

"Sentinel Asia" is a project that has been nurtured by the Asia-Pacific Regional Space Agency Forum (APRSAF), and the APRSAF Earth Observation Working Group already has satellite communications-based enhancements on its disaster management agenda for 2008-2009. China also has disaster management as a important component of the Asia-Pacific Satellite Cooperation Organization (APSCO), a Beijing-sponsored group which includes Pakistan and Iran, but does not include South Korea or Japan, which is the founder of APRSAF.

China is also a member of APRSAF, and in 2009, China and Japan may want to consider initiating a process whereby APSCO and APRSAF mesh into a single regional body, although this recommendation may, in reality, be too farfetched.

In 2009, China will go on constructing its new launch facility on Hainan Island where the new Long March 5 heavy lift launch vehicle will be based. At the same time, China will be keeping a close eye on two new low-cost launch vehicles that may challenge China's Long March rockets over the next decade in what is best described as the cheapest ride into the space race. All the components have finally arrived, and SpaceX's Falcon 9 in the US is now being assembled at Cape Canaveral, while ISRO is also starting to beat the drum about its new GSLV-MKIII low-cost launch vehicle.

Emerging low-cost launch options aside, NASA begins the new year with rampant speculation swirling about the future of the Ares launch vehicles, part of NASA's Constellation program. The future of the H2 rocket operated by the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency is also anyone's guess at this point. In Europe, the European Space Agency is being pulled in different directions and is trying to maintain a united front.

In fact, China, Russia and India are sailing on relatively smooth waters in space as 2009 begins. They are perhaps the only countries where predictability and stability exists with respect to the budget, direction and scope of their respective government space programs. For everyone else, what lies ahead in 2009 is a tremendous amount of uncertainty.

There is one more variable that is worth mentioning. As China's economy sours, this might exert a drag on China's timetable for all of its planned space activities in 2009 and beyond. This seems an unlikely outcome given the important - and expanding - PLA space connection, it cannot be ruled out entirely.

Peter J Brown is a satellite journalist from Maine, USA.

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China will have her own GPS system by 2015.

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China plans own satellite navigation system by 2015: state media

by Staff Writers
Beijing (AFP) Jan 19, 2009
China plans to complete its own satellite navigation system by 2015, making it independent of foreign technology such as the US-developed Global Positioning System (GPS), state media said Monday.
The Beidou Navigation System will enable military and civilian users from China to find their way anywhere in the world, the Xinhua news agency reported, citing a senior space technology official.

"The system will shake off the dependence on foreign systems," said Zhang Xiaojin, director of astronautics at the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp.

To this end, China aims to launch 30 more satellites into space by the middle of the next decade, on top of five satellites already in orbit, according to the agency. Ten satellites will be launched in 2009 and 2010, it said.

The five-satellite system in place so far only provides regional navigation services within China's own territory, Xinhua said.

The Beidou Navigation System is seen as a rival not just of the GPS, but also the European Union's Galileo Positioning System and Russia's Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS).
 
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