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broadsword

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From Gizmag, the landing procedure

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Now the probe will slumber for a few days, until it burns its own engines to enter lunar orbit on December 6.

Then will come the tricky bit, landing safely without any input from controllers on Earth. This requires a combination of inertial guidance, extremely precise range and velocity measurements, image recognition, and a pretty fast computer – not to mention a certain amount of luck.
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Chang'e-3 will pass through several distinct stages during the landing procedure. Initially in a circular 100 x 100 km (63 x 63 mi) orbit, it will lower itself into an orbit whose closest approach to the lunar surface is 15 km (9.3 mi). The next step is to break out of that orbit, beginning the landing approach.

As the probe approaches the landing site, it begins to examine the area to look for unexpected hazards. Once over a good tract of land, Chang'e-3 will hover on its rockets, and do a thorough examination of the landing site. It will then avoid any hazards while slowly lowering itself toward the ground. The rockets will cut out when the craft is 4 meters (13 ft) above the soil, allowing it to free-fall until impact with the ground is absorbed by the landing legs. This may sound like harsh treatment, but in a fall of 4 meters under lunar gravity, the impact velocity is only 3.6 m/s, or about 8 mph.
 

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Luckily no one was hurt.

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DRAGON SPACE
China space launch debris wrecks villagers' homes: report
by Staff Writers
Beijing (AFP) Dec 03, 2013


Debris from the rocket carrying China's first moon rover plummeted to earth in a village more than a thousand kilometres from the launch site, crashing into two homes, a report said Tuesday.

The incident about nine minutes after the launch of the Chang'e-3 mission early Monday happened in Suining county in the central province of Hunan, which has been hit by space wreckage nearly 20 times, the Xiaoxiang Morning Post said.

"Three of the roof beams have crashed down on our house, and a big hole has been punched into our barn," one local resident told the paper.

"The huge sound scared the living daylights out of me," said another.

A picture showed a somewhat baffled-looking villager peering at the curved shape of what appeared to be a rocket nose-cone, below a gaping hole in his roof.

Authorities gave the residents 10,800 yuan ($1,800) and 5,200 yuan in compensation, the paper said. No one was injured.

A Long March-3B carrier rocket, China's most powerful such vehicle, blasted off at around 1:30 am Monday from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in southwestern China.

The lunar rover mission is part of China's ambitious space programme, which has the goal of establishing a permanent space station by 2020 and eventually sending a human to the moon.

But debris from China's numerous space launches has frequently found its way to Suining county, which has been hit by rocket parts nearly 20 times since the early 1990s, the Xiaoxiang Morning Post reported.

Last May wreckage from a rocket sent up by the Xichang Launch Centre crashed into homes and hit a high-voltage wire in the area, according to the Shanghai Daily News.

In October 2011 a steel frame weighing more than 250 kilograms (550 pounds) landed in a field after another satellite launch, and other wreckage pierced a house roof.
 

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The desert of fine, soft sand ripples with low dunes and not a plant is in sight. Simmering under a ceaseless noonday sun, the Kumtag desert descends through chill to extreme frigidity as night falls. This is the most moon-like place in China.

It was here in northwest China on the boundary of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region and Gansu Province that Chinese scientists built the testing ground for moon rover Yutu (Jade Rabbit).

If successful, the Chang'e-3 lunar probe, launched on Monday on its two-week voyage to deliver Yutu to the surface of the moon, will be China's first soft-landing on an extraterrestrial body.

WHY THE DESERT?

Jia Yang, deputy chief designer, said that as this is China's first such mission, the designers conducted many ground experiments. "The field tests in the Kumtag are some of the most important," Jia said.

"We tried our best to simulate the lunar environment in the lab, and tested Yutu there. However, the operators of the rover became so familiar with the lab environment that they could pilot him entirely satisfactorily on experience alone, even if they had no clear images," said Jia.

"To avoid this kind of problem, we needed to create an environment in the field which was entirely unknown to the remote crew, who must use their judgment to control the rover purely on the basis of the images transmitted by Yutu himself," Jia said. Yutu's long-range abilities can really only be on trial in the desert, he added.

Yutu weighs approximately 140 kilograms and runs on six wheels. The solar-powered vehicle can climb inclines of 30 degrees and cover up to 200 meters in an hour. Equipped with clusters of cameras and spectrometers, an optical telescope, radar and other sensors, the Jade Rabbit will survey the moon's geological structure and surface substances, while keeping on the look out for signs of useful natural resources.

Sometime in mid-December, Chang'e-3 should touch down in the Bay of Rainbows, or Sinus Iridum, a flat volcanic plain thought to be relatively clear of large rocks. The Bay of Rainbows was selected because the level terrain should guarantee smooth communications and ample sunshine for Yutu's solar panels.

DESERT? WHICH DESERT?

Finding a test ground that could provide everything the mission required meant analyzing the geography and climate of all the deserts in China. "We took several factors into consideration. First, we wanted very fine sand. The average diameter of particles in the lunar soil is about 70 micrometers, as thin as a hair," Jia said.

"Second, the desert must be very dry. Although China has a surfeit of deserts, many of them have vegetation, which was precisely not what we wanted. After all, there are no plants on the moon. So we looked for places with a very low precipitation," Jia said.

Another requirement was the absence of any strong winds during the testing season in October, because there is no wind on the moon. There is more than one desert that fits the bill in China. Taklamakan, China's largest desert also has the right circumstances, but the scientists were also considering the shape of the dunes.

"We hoped to make the testing ground relatively flat with some stones to simulate the most typical lunar landform, but Taklamakan has huge pyramidal dunes which would be too much trouble to work around," said Jia.

After more than 20,000 kilometers of travel and collecting data on climate, vegetation, soil mechanics and security, the northeast part of the Kumtag, close to the Lop Nur was chosen. "We checked all the deserts in China, and this place is the most suitable," Jia said.

Covering 22,800 square kilometers, the Kumtag is China's sixth largest desert. Resembling a bird's feather on satellite images, the Kumtag, from the Uygur for "sand mountain", boasts many unique landscapes. Annual precipitation is less than 10 millimeters and no plant can grow on the dunes in the northeast.

SANDBOX

Within an area of about three square kilometers, some transformation was required to bring the testing ground in line with data and pictures collected by Chang'e-1 and Chang'e-2, as well as the Apollo missions. Duan Hailin, who was in charge of the work, said, "We built slopes according to the scientists' blueprint, and dug more than 10 'meteor craters', and scattered stones here and there."

"We made the testing ground as similar to the lunar surface as we could, except for the light conditions and the temperature," said Jia. To make Yutu weigh as same as he will on the moon, some electronic equipment was moved to another vehicle, and connected with wires.

Yutu's ability over short distances of around 10 meters and much longer distances of up to one kilometer were rigorously tested. Another important experiment was to look for a dormancy point during the lunar night. "Before sunset, Yutu will find a suitable place to park up with an inclination that will allow him to be ready to awaken again after the severe cold of the lunar night," Jia said.

The scientist was reluctant to speculate on how far the Jade Rabbit can go on. "He will not go very far, even though he has the ability. He will spend most of the time conducting surveys and taking pictures. After the pictures are sent back to Earth, it will take the ground crew a long time to find suitable paths," Jia said.

"Every step Yutu takes will be very carefully planned. He will not go very far during his life," Jia said. The scientists named the desert sandbox "Wangshu Village." In Chinese mythology, Wangshu is a goddess who drives the carriage of the moon. "And here we are, building and driving a moon rover in reality," Jia said.
 

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Following the launch of Chang’e-3 lunar probe in Xichang Satellite Launch Centre, the Camera Pointing System jointly developed by researchers of The Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU) and China Academy of Space Technology (CAST) is now getting closer for landing on the moon’s surface. This sophisticated space tool which is carried on board of the spacecraft is the first Hong Kong-made and developed instrument being deployed for the country’s lunar exploration programme since its launch in 2007.

Joining this historical mission is Professor Yung Kai-leung, Associate Head of PolyU’s Department of Industrial and System Engineering, who is also an expert member appointed by China National Space Administration's Lunar Exploration Programme Centre for the third phase of China's lunar exploration programme. Professor Yung and his partner have a wealth of experience in making sophisticated space tools for different missions. These include the “Mars Rock Corer” for the European Space Agency’s 2003 Mars Express Mission, the Space Holinser Forceps for the then MIR Space Station, and the “Soil Preparation System” for the Sino-Russian Space Mission in 2011. All these space tools were made in the University’s well-equipped Industrial Centre.

The Camera Pointing System developed by PolyU expert measures 85 cm (length) by 27 cm (width) and 16 cm (depth) and it weighs 2.8 kg. It was installed in the upper part of the lander and capable of moving vertically by 120 degree and rotating sideway by 340 degree to capture images of the moon as well as movement of the rover. This sophisticated space tool will be able to withstand the vast difference in temperature and function in one sixth of gravity on the moon. After the rover is released, the Camera Pointing System will come into operation together with other parts of the lander for lunar exploration.


PolyU has been working closely with CAST. In 2010, both parties signed a pact for the establishment of a Joint Laboratory in Precision Engineering for Space Applications. CAST also donated advanced space research equipment for the Joint Laboratory. In the third phase of China’s lunar exploration programme, Professor Yung will further collaborate with mainland experts to develop a “Surface Sampling and Packing System”.
 

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On the contrary, if there was not a 30-60 second hover fuel reserve, Apollo 11 would have failed by landing in a field of boulders.
If there was not the 30~60 seconds of hover fuel, Apollo 11 would have landed successfully anyway.

The fact that no landing mission during the whole of Apollo program failed was a testament to the critical importance of the margin 30-60 seconds of hover fuel provided.
The critical importance that you claimed is non existence, since no lander ever required that extra 30~60 seconds of fuel that you claimed is necessary. Apollo 11 being the lander that used the most fuel still has close to 30 seconds of fuel left. This means all the other landers could have get rid of another 30 seconds of fuel and still would have landed safely.
 

chuck731

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No, it would not. It would have came down on a field of boulders and would suffered a high probability of toppling on landing or ending up at an angle where the ascent stage can't be safely fired.

It didn't have 30 seconds of fuel left. It's descent stage fuel was almost exhausted when it finally found a suitable site

If you consider 1 out of 6 landing mission used up essentially all of its descent stage fuel, and plot how much fuel any of the rest of the missions had left when touched down on the moon, it would not be hard to do a probabilistic model of the chances of any individual mission actually using up all its descent stage fuel before finding a suitable spot.

I garranty it is not zero. Given how close Apollo 11 was, the overall chance of a diseaster sometime during Apollo program due to descent stage running out of fuel looking for a suitable landing site is likely not much less than 1 in 6.
 
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No, it would not. It would have came down on a field of boulders and would suffered a high probability of toppling on landing or ending up at an angle where the ascent stage can't be safely fired.

It didn't have 30 seconds of fuel left. It's descent stage fuel was almost exhausted when it finally found a suitable site.

If you consider 1 out of 6 landing mission used up essentially all of its descent stage fuel, and plot how much fuel any of the rest of the missions had left when touched down on the moon, it would not be hard to do a probabilistic model of the chances of any individual mission actually using up all its descent stage fuel before finding a suitable spot.

I garranty it is not zero. Given how close Apollo 11 was, the overall chance of a diseaster sometime during Apollo program due to descent stage running out of fuel looking for a suitable landing site is likely not much less than 1 in 6.
Does it matter? Clearly not, since your scenario never happened. Otherwise, you would not have used "if" so often.

The simple reality is that none of the Apollo landers required extra fuel that you claimed they needed. They all landed successfully with fuel left, showing your idea of adding an other extra 30~60 fuel is completely pointless. This means your whole example of Apollo 11 doesn't even support your argument.

Your whole rationale behind extra fuel is that you think Chang'e 3 will need to wait for decision from Earth during landing. Yet, you have been told repeatedly that the lander will perform all maneuvers and decision-making autonomously. I don't see why you are still trying to argue.
 
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