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maozedong

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For such a rare chip, 20k RMB isn't bad. The 1k RMB is surely not reporting amortized R&D costs, which is included in the 20k paid for foreign chips. I would say if the R&D is included, the domestic version probably costs more than 20k, but this does not downplay the significance of domestic production capability; another transition from "have not" to "have".

Edit: maybe this is the chip in the receiver, not satellite. If so, then this is a huge step.

Not only from" have not" to " have",the significance "Its research success, breaking the application of satellite navigation positioning GPS market by foreign monopoly situation."
I think the chip not for satellite,from the article should be GPS Application of the market.
also,foreign R&D much higher than China, which will certainly increase on to the consumers, and that when they monopolized the market, prices will be raised to unreasonable level, which will inevitably hamper China's "Beidou" satellite navigation system development and application of the two can not be separated.
 

RedMercury

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If indeed the bottleneck cost has been reduced to 1k, then we may see Beidu receivers in large numbers in the future. This will ease the cost of digitizing more units in the PLA.
 

duskylim

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Dear Sirs:

Aside from the inclusion of domestic electronics, the real key to improvements in accuracy and positioning for China's Beidou navigational system is the creation of highly accurate, lightweight and mobile atomic clocks. It is by using the clock as a reference with respect to the variety of signals given and received by the system that precise positioning is obtained.

If you have worked with them (I have used an old one in the physics lab) they are usually very much, laboratory curiosities, finicky and temperamental. To turn such a device, into something as reliable and mobile enough to be shot into space, while still retaining its accuracy is
no mean achievement.

Future increases in the systems accuracy will rely on the miniaturization and standardization of these delicate devices.

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim
 

alopes

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One more news about China progressing toward space exploration.
At this pace, maybe China could launch its own space station in several years.

Shenzhou VII Spaceship Airlock Module, Spacesuit Pass Initial Ground Tests
by Staff Writers
Beijing (XNA) Feb 22, 2008

China has passed initial ground tests for its Shenzhou VII spaceship airlock module and an extravehicular spacesuit, Thursday's China daily quoted a top scientist as saying. "Both the airlock module and the extravehicular spacesuit passed the tests, which simulated the zero-gravity environment of space," said Yang Baohua, head of the China Academy of Space Technology.

"This boosts our confidence in the spacewalk," he said.

The airlock module and extravehicular spacesuit are critical for the mission and their design are challenging for the Chinese scientists.

The airlock is a pressure chamber linking the main body of the spacecraft to the outside. It is a complex piece of equipment but was not required on the previous six Shenzhou space flights, according to Yang.

Similarly, the extravehicular spacesuit, developed by several other scientific institutes, is technologically more demanding than the intra-vehicular spacesuits worn by astronauts on earlier missions. It must protect astronauts from dramatic temperature changes and radiation in space, as well as provide them with food, oxygen and equipment to communicate with the spaceship, experts said.

Currently, fourteen candidates are undergoing training for the Shenzhou VII mission, including China's first astronaut Yang Liwei, who was aboard Shenzhou V in 2003.

But the final three on board have not been decided.

The spacewalk mission is expected to be broadcast live on television.

Yang Baohua said the spaceship's re-entry module is the largest in the world in terms of its available space. Once it returns to Earth, the orbital module will remain in space to carry out experiments.

A successful spacewalk mission will lay the foundation for a space laboratory and space station, he said.

China Academy of Space technology has designed most of China's satellites, including the Shenzhou spaceships.

Although the exact date has not set for the spacewalk, the Shenzhou VII will be launched this year from Jiuquan, Gansu province.

link - http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=55548
 

sandyj

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TianLian 1 Data Relay Satellite System

Last updated: 26 April 2008

The TianLian-1 (TL-1, TianLian = "Sky Link") data relay satellite (DRS) system has been developed by the China Academy of Space Technology (CAST). Similar to the U.S. Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System (TDRSS) in concept, the TL-1 is designed to support near-real-time communications between orbiting spacecraft and the ground control. The system will complement the existing ground-based space tracking and telemetry stations and ships to support future space projects of the PRC.

The initial experimental system consists of a ground-based simulation system and an orbiting satellite testing system. The ground-based simulation system consists of a fixed ground station and a mobile station, which are designed to test the satellite’s capability to support two ground users simultaneously. The ground stations, along with the central terminal station and control centre, will simulate the low-, medium-, and high-speed data communications with the data relay satellite in Ka- and S-band.

The orbiting satellite testing system is designed to examine and transmit the parameters of the orbiting data relay satellite and its onboard mission payloads. The system can also support the monitoring, testing and maintenance of the satellite’s data links with the ground stations. The first-generation system is based on the DFH-3A satellite bus, and will have a single satellite providing 50% of global coverage. The future second-generation system will be based on the DFH-4 satellite bus, with two satellites providing 85% of global coverage.

The main contractor for the ground-based simulation system and an orbiting satellite testing system is Beijing-based Space Star Technology Co. Ltd., a commercial company owned by the CAST. The first experimental satellite was launched on 25 April 2008 by a CZ-3C launch vehicle from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre.

Launch Records

Satellite Launch Date Launch Site Launch Vehicle Orbit In use Note
TianLian 1 No.01 25 Apr 08 Xichang CZ-3C Y1 GEO -
 

sandyj

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Tracking, Telemetry & Command (TT&C) Network

Last updated: 4 April 2008

The PRC’s space tracking, telemetry and control (TT&C) network was built in the late 1960s and became operational in the early 1970s to support the country’s long-range ballistic missile and space programmes. The network provides tracking data for ballistic missile tests and space launches, as well as support for the operation, control, and maintenance of all PRC satellites in space. In addition, the network has limited capability of monitoring and identifying objects in space and providing early warning of a ballistic missile attack on the Chinese territory.

The TT&C network consists of an aerospace command & control centre in Beijing, a satellite control centre in Xi’an, several land-based space tracking stations located both inside the PRC and overseas, and five space tracking ships to provide a global coverage of TT&C capability. All TT&C facilities are manned by both military personnel from the PLA General Armament Department (GAD) and civilians working in the PRC space industry.

The initial TT&C network was based on VHF radio telemetry and tracking systems, which had a poor tracking accuracy and was easily disrupted by civilian radio and television broadcasting signals. The system has been retired since 2004~2005. A second network working at the C-band was built in the 1970s to support the geosynchronous orbit (GEO) launch missions. In the 1990s, a high-accuracy unified S-band (USB) that combines tracking and ranging, command, audio and video links into a single antenna was built to support the Project 921 manned spaceflight programme. This network included a new domestic tracking station and four overseas tracking stations.

The PRC is studying an indigenous Data Relay Satellite (DRS) System to supplement the existing TT&C network for future spaceflight missions. The system will include two geostationary satellites and relay data from 5-10 satellites at a time while covering 85% of the globe.

Domestic Tracking Stations

Weinan Station, military codename: Qinling or No.28 Computing Station, was built in the 1970s as a key missile and space tracking facility. It was intended to serve as the command and control centre for the PRC’s ballistic missile early warning system. The station is located in Weinan City, about 60km northeast of Xi’an City in Shaanxi Province. Because of its unique location, the station is able to track missiles and launch vehicles launched from all three PRC launch sites. In the Shenzhou manned space flight missions, Weinan Station is responsible for tracking and monitoring the launch vehicle and spacecraft during the ascent stage. According to the Chinese media report, by 2002 the station had supported “14 strategic ballistic missile tests and over 30 satellite launch missions”.


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The Weinan Space Tracking station (Source: Chinese Internet)

Changchun Station, military codename: Changcheng (“Great Wall”), is the space tracking and missile early warning station located in Changchun City, Jilin Province.

Qingdao Station (also known as Bohai Station) was originally built in the 1970s for the missile tracking and early warning role. It was upgraded in the 1990s to support the Project 921 manned spaceflight programme. Located in Qingdao City, Shandong Province on China’s east coast, the station plays a key role in monitoring the launch vehicle during the ascend stage of the launch, and controlling the spacecraft to enter its scheduled orbit. In 2007, a new 18m-diametre tracking radar dish was installed in the station to receive data transmitted back from the Chang’e lunar orbiting probe.


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The Qingdao Space Tracking station (Source: Chinese Internet)

Zhanyi (Guilin) Station is located in Zhanyi County, Guilin, Yunan Province in southern China. The station mainly supports GEO launches conducted from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre (XSLC).


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The 110 mono-pulse radar at the Zhanyi Space/Missile Tracking station (Source: Chinese Internet)

Nanhai Station is located near the Yulin Naval Base on the Hainan Island. It supports GEO launches conducted from XSLC.

Karshi Station, also known as Tianshan Station, is located in Shule County in Xinjiang. It is the westernmost tracking station within PRC’s territory and plays a key role during the re-entry of the Shenzhou spacecraft.

Xiamen Station, military codename: Qianshao (“Vanguard”), is a missile and space tracking facility located in Xiamen City, Fujian Province on the east coast.

Lushan Station, military codename: Huanghe (“Yellow River”) was built in the late 1970s.

Jiamusi Station is a space and missile tracking station located in Jiamusi City, Heilongjiang Province.


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The radar of the Jiamusi Space/Missile Tracking station (Source: Chinese Internet)

Dongfeng Station is located in the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Centre (JSLC) in Inner Mongolia. The station provides tracking data during the take-off and re-entry of the Shenzhou spacecraft.

Hetian Station is a mobile station located in Xinjiang. It provides tracking data during the flight and re-entry of the Shenzhou capsule.

A mobile station is deployed in the landing site of the Shenzhou spacecraft in Siziwang Banner, Inner Mongolia. The station is responsible for locating the re-entry capsule during its landing.


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Domestic space tracking stations

Overseas Tracking Stations

Karachi Station was possibly built in the late 1990s to support the Project 921 manned space flight programme. The facility has been providing tracking data for Shenzhou flight missions since 1999.

Tarawa Station located on the South Tarawa Island, Republic of Kiribati was opened in 1997 to support the Project 921 manned space flight programme. However, the status of the facility became gloomy in November 2003 after the President Anote Tong’s decision to officially recognise Taiwan as an independent state. PRC has been reportedly looking for an alternative site for a new station in the region.

Malindi (Kenya) Station is located at Malindi, an Indian Ocean coastal town in the Republic of Kenya in Eastern Africa. The station became operational in July 2005 to support the . Shenzhou 6 manned space flight mission.

Swakopmund (Namibia) Station was completed in July 2001 following an agreement signed in October 2000 between the governments of the PRC and Namibia. Swakopmund is a South Atlantic costal down in central Namibia in Southern Africa. The station together with Yuanwang 3 space tracking ship stationed in South Atlantic provides crucial tracking and control during the re-entry of the Shenzhou spacecraft. According to Chinese media report, the facility is staffed by 16 engineers and technicians.

Additionally, the PRC has signed agreements with France, Brazil, Sweden and Australia to share space tracking facilities for mutual benefits.

Yuanwang Space Tracking Ships

The PRC currently deploys five Yuanwang space tracking ships to supplement the land-based tracking stations in its space programme. In a typical Shenzhou flight mission, Yuanwang 1 is positioned in the West Pacific off the Chinese coast; Yuanwang 2 is positioned about 1,500km southwest of French Polynesia in Southern Pacific; Yuanwang 3 is positioned off the Namibian coast in the Atlantic; Yuanwang 4 is positioned off the coast of Western Australian in the Indian Ocean. Yuanwang 1,2 and 3 are capable of tracking and controlling the spacecraft during its launch, flight and re-entry, as well as communications relay between the Beijing command centre and the spacecraft, while Yuanwang 4 is only capable of tracking the spacecraft. Two new ships (Yuanwang 5 and 6) have been commissioned recently. Please see main article: Yuanwang Space Tracking Ships.

Xi’an Satellite Control Centre (XSCC)

XSCC, also known as Base 26 in its military code name, is located in Xi’an City, Shaanxi Province. It is the nerve centre of the PRC’s TT&C network and the primary satellite (unmanned missions) control facility. All domestic and overseas ground tracking stations are subordinate to XSCC in administrative structure.


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The Xi'an Satellite Control Centre (Source: Chinese Internet)

Beijing Aerospace Command & Control Centre (BACC)

Please see main article: Beijing Aerospace Command & Control Centre (BACC)

Operations

During a typical Shenzhou flight mission, three tracking stations are responsible for the tracking and monitoring of the launch vehicle and spacecraft in the ascent stage: Dongfeng (JSLC), Weinan and Qingdao.

Once the spacecraft is separated from the launch vehicle, it enters the initial orbit and deploy its solar panels under the command of the Qingdao Tracking Station and two space tracking ships: Yuanwang 1 positioned in the West Pacific off the Chinese coast and Yuanwang 2 positioned about 1,500km southwest of French Polynesia in the Southern Pacific.

During the retrofire stage, the tracking and controlling is carried out by Yuanwang 3 space tracking ship positioned off the South African coast in the Atlantic and the ground station located at Swakopmund, Namibia. Under the control of the two stations, the spacecraft changes its flight status, jettisons its orbital module, and start retrofire to slow down for re-entry.

The re-entry of the capsule is monitored and controlled by a range of tracking stations lined up in the Central Asia region, including the Karachi Tracking Station in Pakistan, two domestic tracking stations at Hetian (Xinjiang) and Karshi (Xijiang), the Dongfeng Tracking Station at JSLC, and the mobile tracking and control station at the landing site in Inner Mongolia.
 
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bd popeye

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Threads merged.

Sandyj we have several China manned space flight threads. So I merged some of them. Your title stands because it is the best in my opinion. Hopefully this will spark some discussion of the PRCs manned space flight program.

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sandyj

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June 2nd, 2008

Mars Settlement Pioneers Will Face Huge Psychological Challenges

Written by Ian O'Neill

Imagine you are on the crew of a Mars mission and you fall out with a fellow crew member. You can't walk away from them. Imagine you are on the surface of Mars and you suffer terrible home sickness. You can't simply fly back to your family. Imagine there is a medical emergency in your team en-route to the Red Planet. You can't call emergency services, you're on your own. These issues with long-period missions into space, especially on future missions to colonize Mars, could cause serious psychological issues and may jeopardise the mission. Many groups are currently working on understanding how humans could react in these situations when they are isolated and confined so far away from home, and "Mars Analogues" based here on Earth are proving to be very useful…

It may seem obvious that it is going to be mentally (let alone physically) tough for future astronauts on the first manned missions to Mars, but space organizations (like NASA and ESA) and voluntary groups such as the Mars Society are gaining a valuable insight to how we function when restricted to very confined spaces with only a handful of people for company. Mars settlement mock-ups known as "Mars analogue environments" based in locations like the Utah Desert or the Arctic island of Spitsbergen are extremely valuable to mission planners when researching how to live and work on the Martian surface. However, they are also proving to be very influential when selecting crew members who will spend all of their time together. This psychological factor may be key to the future of Mars missions that could last years.

Plans are afoot for a long 520-day mock Mars mission this year to study the effects isolation has on a group of 12 volunteers. The study is being carried out by ESA and the Russian Institute of Biomedical Problems so psychological issues can be identified and understood. It is work like this on Earth that will influence the selection of astronauts to be sent to Mars who are compatible in a work and social environment.

A lot of research has been done on astronauts ever since Yuri Gagarin was launched into orbit alone in 1961. Before Gagarin's historic journey, doctors were very concerned that weightlessness may cause acute mental disorders such as schizophrenia. Fortunately, this was not to be the case, but there are many disorders we cannot fully test until man ventures far into interplanetary space.


It seems natural that Mars astronauts will want gifts, luxuries and other "reminders from home", as is possible on the International Space Station, but they will be totally isolated with no ferrying of items when they leave the safety of Earth. This need can be subdued by regular communications with home (although a 40+ minute delay for communications between Earth and Mars will make any "live" conversation impossible), and generally we know the problems we'll face should these "homesick" feelings surface.

But what happens when man loses sight of Earth? Dr. Nick Kanas, who has studied astronaut psychology at UC San Francisco, is concerned about this unknown factor. He has even given this situation a name: the "Earth out of view" phenomenon.

"Nobody in the history of mankind has ever experienced the Earth as a pale, insignificant blue dot in the sky. What that might do to a crew member, nobody knows." - Dr. Nick Kanas.

This is the nature of the task in hand, humans are going to be pushed beyond what we would consider to be a "natural" situation. Perhaps we might surprise ourselves and find that space exploration is as natural to us as it was for our ancestors to discover new continents. In fact, many astronaut psychologists are looking back into the history books to gain an insight as to what it was like for early pioneers of global exploration.

"When early explorers left their home countries on the seas, they didn't see their home countries anymore. They didn't even have a dot to look at. It was out of sight on the other side of the world. It is not like we are reinventing the wheel. We are just doing the same thing in a different environment that was just as demanding then." - Walter Sipes, NASA psychologist, Johnson Space Center, Houston.

These factors combined with space euphoria and the "Overview Effect", our future Mars astronauts are possibly in for a bumpy psychological ride…

Source: CNN
 

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another launch off CZ-3B.
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The third Chinese launch of 2008 has seen the ZX-9 ZhongXing-9 - or ChinaSat-9 - launched into orbit at 12:15 UTC from the XiChang Satellite Launch Center, on the earthquake plagued Sichuan province.

The launch was carried out by a CZ-3B Chang Zheng-3B (CZ3B-10) launch vehicle, from the LC2 launch complex.
good to see the earthquake didn't do any harm to the launch complex.
 

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photos showing SZ-7 astronauts receiving underwater simulation training for spacewalking.
 
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