China's SCS Strategy Thread

Wrought

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British thinktank goes to SEA and is shocked to discover that local views diverge from theirs.

As a heavily laden, Danish-owned container ship leaves Singapore’s port and enters international waters, it pings China’s Zheng He vessel identification system, providing an update on its cargo and intended route through the South China Sea to Shanghai. Despite long-standing fears about China’s threat to freedom of navigation, Beijing still allows all commercial ships unrestricted access to these critical global trade routes, so long as they adopt Chinese monitoring technology. Foreign navies, by contrast, are severely curtailed in these waters, with control maintained through China’s unrivalled navy and coast guard, plugged into a sprawling network of unmanned ships, drones, sensors, and satellites.

The year is 2035. And this vignette reflects a hypothetical scenario of Chinese dominance of the South China Sea that we recently presented to policymakers and maritime experts in Southeast Asia and the United Kingdom in a “back-casting” exercise.

We designed our scenario as a worst-case realistic outcome (excluding black swan events). Shockingly, many officials and researchers we spoke to in Southeast Asia viewed this outcome as simply a continuation of business-as-usual. That was one of many surprises that arose in our discussions, underlining the importance of techniques such as back-casting in challenging conventional wisdom. As Beijing has consolidated its leading position in the South China Sea, international analysts have tended to focus on factors such as the
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, China’s use of
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, and its abuses of international law. But in our back-casting discussions, Southeast Asian participants thought that the combination of Beijing’s economic might and its
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in digital and renewable energy technologies would be more decisive considerations if China were to gain full control of the South China Sea.

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If only there was some evidence of changes happening on the ground.

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PhSt

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The guy in the video is a good example of how much the average Filipino is detached from reality. This Carpio guy keeps insisting that with the help of the US navy, China wasn't able to stop Malaysian and Indonesian efforts to exploit gas deposits in disputed areas in the SCS.


The strategy of the PH now is to involve as many outside parties into the SCS issue and make it harder for China and other ASEAN nations to craft a sort of code of conduct that is acceptable to all.
 

vincent

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The strategy of the PH now is to involve as many outside parties into the SCS issue and make it harder for China and other ASEAN nations to craft a sort of code of conduct that is acceptable to all.
There are only two other ASEAN countries involved in the dispute: Malaysia and Vietnam. They are not making any fuss about the South China Sea and China isn’t doing anything to provoke them.
At this point I don’t think China cares about the code of conduct anymore. China is strong enough to kick anyone out of the SCS if she wants to.
 
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GulfLander

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The guy in the video is a good example of how much the average Filipino is detached from reality. This Carpio guy keeps insisting that with the help of the US navy, China wasn't able to stop Malaysian and Indonesian efforts to exploit gas deposits in disputed areas in the SCS.


The strategy of the PH now is to involve as many outside parties into the SCS issue and make it harder for China and other ASEAN nations to craft a sort of code of conduct that is acceptable to all.
I am curious whats his comments on other building new islands in scs..
 

BlackWindMnt

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GulfLander

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Google translated, so names may not be accurate...
On July 19, local time, the 12th meeting of the 13th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam decided to remove former Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc, former President Wu Wenshang, former President of the Parliament, and former President of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Lai Mingle, all positions within the Communist Party of Vietnam
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CMP

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Is there a purge led by pro-China faction? There is no way this is just anti-corruption campaign.
Could this be an indication that the compromising trade tariff negotiations towards the US were broadly viewed as a failure and this is the outcome? Purging the incompetents that pushed for caving to the US.
 
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