China's SCS Strategy Thread

Cyclist

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IMHO, I think this can be resolved without war. China just needs to forcefully enforce the law but without fire or guns or explosives. If it can do with regarding border conflicts with India, I think China can do it with Philippines too. Detains the invaders/trespassers using non-lethal weapons.

Marcos pushed too hard to fulfill his election campaign (
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) and now needs a way out, China can give him face. I feel like Marcos is just trying to gain personal economic benefit here if we learn just how corrupt their family history is. In China's long history, there is always a way to avoid war and gain territory by bribing or seed a discord in the opponent base.

Not that I think China is afraid of war, but it is still not the right moment. China is rich now and not like the war in the 20th century where China had only option to spill blood, now China has other option, this is just a matter which one is more efficient or cheaper, spend money to a person/family or just spend money wasting ammunitions or maybe the opportunity for training/testing new weapons/equipments.

It is understandable for nationalists in Philippines to be angry just like the Indians, but when they realized just how powerless they are, I think they will quiet down just like what happened with Scarborough Shoal standoff incident in 2012. Unless if they are the first to start using guns or explosives then there is no other way for China to respond in the same manner.

Sun Tzu: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."
 

Wrought

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Today's video


Looks like more of the same, blocking and water cannon and so forth. Glad to see them continuing with steady pressure instead of a sharp escalation, no need to satisfy impatient nationalists too stupid to see the bigger picture.

CCG released an brief statement earlier today. It may or may not be significant that the Philipipines coast guard and/or navy have not released one (yet); normally they are pretty quick about it.

6月17日,中国海警依法对非法闯入我南沙群岛仁爱礁邻近海域的菲律宾船只采取管制措施。

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Looks like more of the same, blocking and water cannon and so forth. Glad to see them continuing with steady pressure instead of a sharp escalation, no need to satisfy impatient nationalists too stupid to see the bigger picture.

CCG released an brief statement earlier today. It may or may not be significant that the Philipipines coast guard and/or navy have not released one (yet); normally they are pretty quick about it.



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Let me put it bluntly: if you keep on provoking users by essentially calling them stupid nationalists, I can assure you that I will personally make sure you get sent on a nice vacation where you can chill out. You can disagree with anyone here, but you shouldn't insult someone due to their perspectives, no matter how you feel about it.
 

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Let me put it bluntly: if you keep on provoking users by essentially calling them stupid nationalists, I can assure you that I will personally make sure you get sent on a nice vacation where you can chill out. You can disagree with anyone here, but you shouldn't insult someone due to their perspectives, no matter how you feel about it.

Sure, I'm happy to stop insulting people who don't insult me. But tell me, why is it only my insults which were deleted by you mods while others like these remain? If you want to ban me because I don't sit by and get attacked in silence, then go ahead.

China's new maritime law was crafted to remove the BRP Sierra Madre you retard, not to remove actual fisherman.

In-case dumbf**ks like @Wrought still didn't get the message, China's new maritime administrative law isn't mean to target real fisherman.
 
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Sure, I'm happy to stop insulting people who don't insult me. But tell me, why is it only my insults which were deleted by you mods while others like these remain? If you want to ban me because I don't sit by and get attacked in silence, then go ahead.
1. You started the bickering by calling them fools:
I hope CCG will arrest a few fishermen soon after the new maritime law comes into effect, to demonstrate that they are serious about enforcing it. That would deter others without posing significant escalation risk, unlike those silly ideas by nationalist fools to attack the Sierra Madre directly. Spreading PCG thin and forcing them to choose where to concentrate their efforts makes far more sense than deliberately causing an incident.
Yes, that is a personal and provocative attack.
2. The super moderator seems to not have purged the aggressive language or posts in the exchange thoroughly
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If you still think you are the victim and have proof to counter my observation, pm me and one or several of the super moderators and we will handle it promptly. This warning applies to everyone equally as well.
 

Wrought

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1. You started the bickering by calling them fools:

Yes, that is a personal and provocative attack.
2. The super moderator seems to not have purged the aggressive language or posts in the exchange thoroughly
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If you still think you are the victim and have proof to counter my observation, pm me and one or several of the super moderators and we will handle it promptly. This warning applies to everyone equally as well.

This is hardly the only place on the internet with nationalists angry about SCS. In fact, the first person to mention the idea I called stupid was specifically talking about rumours from other sites.

Some SCS commentators seem to think something big is happening on the 15th because that's when the new Coast Guard law comes into effect which would allow CCG to arrest people on the spot. Maybe they would even storm the ship.

I'm not really convinced, I feel if that was happening more 政治动员 would be happening in the media. What are your thoughts?

My post that "started the bickering" refers to nationalist fools only in the abstract. I did not call out anyone by name or by post, and if coolgod felt it was a personal attack on him specifically then that is his business. I do not believe I am the victim, because I used insults myself. I acknowledge that I was at fault for that and am happy to cease after being warned about it. What I was not happy with is the idea that some people are free to use insults while others are not. If that is not the case, then as far as I am concerned there is no problem.
 
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AFP is Armed Forces Philippines. The Pinoys and Americans are awfully quiet after today's incident, they didn't even report it until a few hours after. I think something big happened, China's coast guard definitely escalated and the Pinoys are trying to figure out how to frame the situation.

China's statement
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supply ship illegally entered the waters near Ren'ai Jiao in China's Nansha Islands on Monday. The China Coast Guard (CCG) took control measures against the Philippine vessel in accordance with law. At 5:59 am, the Philippine supply ship ignored multiple stern warnings from the Chinese side, violated the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea, dangerously and in an unprofessional manner approached Chinese vessels navigating normally, resulting in a collision. The responsibility for the incident lies entirely with the Philippine side: CCG

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Beijing prepared to counter 'Manila's attempt to legalize illegal occupations'

It is totally legitimate for the PLA Navy to conduct training exercises on and near Chinese islands and reefs in the South China Sea, a Chinese military expert who requested anonymity told the Global Times on Sunday.

The drills contribute to the PLA Navy's capabilities in safeguarding China's territorial sovereignty and maritime rights, the expert said, noting that the presence of some of China's main amphibious warfare vessels will ensure any potential emergency will not lead to worse scenarios.
 

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This is hardly the only place on the internet with nationalists angry about SCS. In fact, the first person to mention the idea I called stupid was someone specifically talking about rumours from other sites.



My post refers to "nationalist fools" only in the abstract. I did not call out anyone by name or by post, and if coolgod felt it was a personal attack on him specifically then that is his business. I do not believe I am the victim, because I used insults myself. I acknowledge that I was at fault for that and am happy to cease. What I am not happy with is the idea that some people are free to use insults while others are not. If that is not the case, then as far as I am concerned there is no problem.
Insults in general in technical threads like these are generally prohibited and dealt with if caught regardless of intent. Remember that text posts can be interpreted differently. Please refrain from using insults and do not reply to mods' messages in bolded non-black text in the future. An official warning or ban if you previously recived a warning will be issued if so. This is to prevent bickering and clogging of threads. Directly message us if you have any more questions or concerns. Case closed.
 

Wrought

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AFP is Armed Forces Philippines. The Pinoys and Americans are awfully quiet after today's incident, they didn't even report it until a few hours after. I think something big happened, China's coast guard definitely escalated and the Pinoys are trying to figure out how to frame the situation.

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