US probably gonna test China whether its ASBM iis legit before conceding. It has many carriers and It probably at least risk one carrier group in war time to verify Chinese ASBM is real or hoax.
If its legit, US would back out.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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If its legit, US would back out.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
There is nothing that the US or anyone is developing faster than China. The US has always provoked without fighting, unless the other country is small, weak, and has oil. It has no record of daring to fight large/nuclear countries, not even North Korea.
If you insist without precedent that the US wants to fight or that its mutts are loyal/stupid enough to die for the master, there's really not much to be said. China prefers peace but it is armed with ASBMs, hypersonic nuclear missiles, stealth fighters, 055, etc... If they came for a fight, China has been readying itself all along.
See above; I still don't at all get what the point of your posts is:
"Actually, this whole thing is an imaginary event as of now and I don't see what your point is. Are you saying that China should get ready to fight these little gremlins or send them flowers or just reporting what might happen?"
Risk a carrier with 4,000 people? And when it gets sunk, then what, concede? LOL And these missiles are constantly under calibration and targeting upgrade along with the changing unique situation each time so it's not like if they miss/hit this time, they'll do the same next time. The very suggestion is absolutely crazy and nonsense.
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War is a calculated risk. One would avoid war if afraid of risk.
US military thinks China ASBM is exaggerated. Psychological ploy.
The assumption of US avoiding engaging with China because of ASBM is not valid.
Losing one carrier is not a fatal blow to US anyway.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Like I said, there are very few conclusions that you could draw from such an experiment. If the carrier escaped being killed, the Chinese can use it as a learning experience to calibrate its missiles so they are more accurate next time. If they sunk the carrier in one hit, they could still miss next time due to errors or other factors. Just like if you fire an air-to-air missile at a fighter and it hit/missed, it does not allow you to conclude that the same will happen next time. There is no value in this "test," but an insane level of risk.
War is a calculated risk in the sense that if there's already a war, the US would have no choice but to find out whether Chinese ASBMs work (or more realistically, how many of them it usually takes to get a hit). But going to war is an entirely different calculation altogether. If an American carrier is sunk by an ASBM, that's past the point of no return; WWIII is on. America cannot placate its people saying they wanted to test Chinese missiles, lost 4,000 people and now want to back off. It that happens, America can basically announce its retirement and welcome China to the world throne.
Oh no! Not the mighty Royal navy! Really this is not the 19th century or even the 20th century where Britain rule the wave. As for the OZ, I think even Taiwan's got a bigger clout!
Honestly the US isn't sitting on its hands either and are just as quickly developing its military as China is. The US is really the only real military threat to China. It's lapdogs are brave enough only to come in after the US and make a few punches. The followers like UK and Japan don't have the desire or courage to meet and fight China themselves. They don't have any reason to beyond what's exaggerated by current Anglo-American propaganda and smear campaigns. However if and when the US comes a knocking, you can bet your entire set of possessions these lapdogs will be right behind and shooting on China. India may even join in. It'll be like the coalition of the freedom lovers all over again lol.
These new US developments are worrying. They're resurrecting development of HGV offensive weapons and will have them soon. Some air launched ballistic missile like Kinzhal has already been fielded. They're working on hypersonic defenses, micro missiles, drones swarms, EMP weapons like China's and EMP cruise missiles. The US has quantity and capability. PLAN is not quite ready against all those Seawolfs and Virginias the USN can bring to the fight in the SCS. One CBG isn't really that much trouble for China but the US Pacific fleet can instantly bring three CBGs and all those SSNs.
These new US developments are worrying. They're resurrecting development of HGV offensive weapons and will have them soon. Some air launched ballistic missile like Kinzhal has already been fielded. They're working on hypersonic defenses, micro missiles, drones swarms, EMP weapons like China's and EMP cruise missiles. The US has quantity and capability. PLAN is not quite ready against all those Seawolfs and Virginias the USN can bring to the fight in the SCS. One CBG isn't really that much trouble for China but the US Pacific fleet can instantly bring three CBGs and all those SSNs.
Who cares, US is not a judge nor a claimant, furthermore her influence in the region is dwindling.
supercat
Major
Nor they have ratified UNCLOS, such hypocrites.
When I extrapolate the current trajectory, I think US might even withdraw from the UN and form a new "US World Order Group" : an that aims to maintain the US-led world order, her interest, and security. Then some lackeys like Japan, Britain, Australia will be ordered to join in or face sanctions.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
I can't understand Beijing what are they doing reticent and self restraint will only invite more provocation
See they keep ratcheting up the pressure Beijing need to station fighters jet on those islet
China Sends Flanker Fighter Jets To South China Sea Amid Tensions
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I cover the changing world of underwater warfare.
Chinese fighter aircraft deployed to the disputed Woody Island in South China Sea on July 15 2020
As the USS Ronald Reagan carrier battle group , evidence has emerged that China has deployed fighter jets to an airstrip on a disputed island there. Satellite imagery from July 15 shows at least four aircraft present. This move comes two days after U.S. Secretary of State that “Beijing’s claims to offshore resources across most of the South China Sea are completely unlawful.” It is also set against a large U.S.-led naval exercise and rising tensions across the region generally.
The planes are believed to be the Chinese-made J-11B variant of the famous Flanker aircraft. These are broadly equivalent to the F-15 Eagle used by the U.S. Air Force. China builds a range of versions of the Russian family of fighter aircraft, originally known as the Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker. While the exact variant is hard to discern from the satellite imagery, there is no doubt that these are Flankers.
The Flankers are on the airstrip at Woody Island in the Paracel Islands. Although de-facto occupied by China, it is also claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam, and is one of many islands in the area that are disputed. China beefed up the facilities in recent years and has deployed fighters and bombers there previously.
See they keep ratcheting up the pressure Beijing need to station fighters jet on those islet
China Sends Flanker Fighter Jets To South China Sea Amid Tensions
Contributor
I cover the changing world of underwater warfare.
Chinese fighter aircraft deployed to the disputed Woody Island in South China Sea on July 15 2020
As the USS Ronald Reagan carrier battle group , evidence has emerged that China has deployed fighter jets to an airstrip on a disputed island there. Satellite imagery from July 15 shows at least four aircraft present. This move comes two days after U.S. Secretary of State that “Beijing’s claims to offshore resources across most of the South China Sea are completely unlawful.” It is also set against a large U.S.-led naval exercise and rising tensions across the region generally.
The planes are believed to be the Chinese-made J-11B variant of the famous Flanker aircraft. These are broadly equivalent to the F-15 Eagle used by the U.S. Air Force. China builds a range of versions of the Russian family of fighter aircraft, originally known as the Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker. While the exact variant is hard to discern from the satellite imagery, there is no doubt that these are Flankers.
The Flankers are on the airstrip at Woody Island in the Paracel Islands. Although de-facto occupied by China, it is also claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam, and is one of many islands in the area that are disputed. China beefed up the facilities in recent years and has deployed fighters and bombers there previously.