This particular issue inherently favors an international PR win by China if it addresses the issue directly rather than indirectly, I never said anything about China winning by not pushing back at all.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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This particular issue inherently favors an international PR win by China if it addresses the issue directly rather than indirectly, I never said anything about China winning by not pushing back at all.
solarz
Brigadier
"International hearts and minds" is a myth created by western propaganda. To the West, "international" means countries that share their values.
In geopolitics, there is only national interest, and that is as it should be.
It's quite desponding to hear of Trade Wars, and now the Security Issues in the South China Sea. I watched the Shangri-La Dialogue TV speeches by the American "Mad Dog" (that's his US Marine nick name I believe) Mattis "barking", & the "Fiery Dragon" Chinese PLA General rebuttal. US & China are 2 Major military/naval powers that really matters. What has happened to Diplomacy? As suggested by China in the response to Trade War with the US - "Can we meet half way" through sensible negotiations? Posturing, ferocious barking, awesome fire will only escalate problems in the South China Sea. Strength in numbers (ships) and weaponries will not help. Potential Alliances can also be made by both opposing sides. God forbid if there are any accidental or real encounters at sea. Time to be realistic as analyses by both sides have, and continue to be made. Respective National & Military Diplomacy by the parties concerned are expected by the people of our region to ensure Peace.
I so admire that China has not kowtowing to the West. It would probably be easier than taking a principled approach. Of course not saying everything China does is benevolent and without fault. At least there is a conscious effort to do so to deflect from the constant negative coverage.
Any truth to this? It is a FAUX news report.
China removes missile launchers from disputed island after row with US, images show
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China apparently removed surface-to-air missile systems from the contested islands in the South China Sea, new satellite images show. The initial move to place the weapons on the island, by Fox news, angered U.S. officials who immediately disinvited China from the Rim of the Pacific Exercises.
New images show China apparently removed surface-to-air missile systems from the contested islands in the South China Sea. (ImageSat International )
Satellite images taken on May 20 showed two new launchers on the northern shore of the disputed island, next to a radar system, all covered by a camouflage net. But recent images taken on Sunday by show that the HQ-9 systems and the camouflage nets have been removed.
Satellite images taken on May 20 showed two new launchers on the northern shore of the disputed island, next to a radar system, all covered by a camouflage net. But recent images taken on Sunday by ImageSat International show that the HQ-9 systems and the camouflage nets have been removed. (ImageSat International )
It is unclear if this is a drill, or a reaction to the U.S. efforts to stop the Chinese militarization of the Island. U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis said the Trump administration's recent decision to disinvite China from a multinational naval exercise this summer was an "initial response" to Beijing's island activity. Mattis called the U.S. action a "relatively small consequence.” He said China could face more severe punishment in the future.
The initial move to place the weapons on the island, first reported by Fox news, angered U.S. officials who immediately disinvited China from the Rim of the Pacific Exercises. (ImageSat International)
"Despite China's claims to the contrary, the placement of these weapons systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation and coercion," Mattis said during a speech at the annual Shangri-La Dialogue. The Pentagon said the provocative move by China raised tensions in the region years after China’s president pledged not to militarize the disputed islands. "We have strong evidence that China has deployed anti-ship missiles, surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, and electronic jammers to contested features in the Spratly Islands region of the South China Sea," Marine Lt. Col. Christopher Logan, a Pentagon spokesman.
"China's landing of bomber aircraft at Woody Island has also raised tensions.", said the bomber had landed on Woody Island, the largest of the Paracel Islands in South China Sea that is also claimed by Taiwan and by Vietnam.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Those are mobile SAM systems, basically trucks. The May 20th picture looks like they just got unloaded and were lined up on the beach and and now they could have been driven anywhere on the island including into sheltered structures. You don't leave mobile SAMS lined up out in the open in one area as they deploy. That the line-up area is empty is completely normal and expected as they scatter into the island on deployment.
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Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Exactly exposing it to salty air will induce corrosion and tropical heat will play havoc with sensitive electronic So yeah they probably hidden in one of those missile garage
Why built a missile garage if you don't use it. BTW the garage has retractable roof
Why built a missile garage if you don't use it. BTW the garage has retractable roof
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manqiangrexue
Brigadier
This is just too stupid; I mean they saw 5 trucks get off-loaded onto an island and just because they're not in the original positions anymore after 10 days, they assume that these trucks had been sent back?? That's like seeing a package left on your neighbor's porch in the morning and when you don't see it anymore later that afternoon, you assume that means FedEx took it back!
After some searching, I'm seeing that this article, obviously written by someone who doesn't know how a mobile SAM is supposed to be deployed, is quite wide-spread, and with many Trump supporters in the comments cheering this as a win for Trump. So now, I can't help but wonder if this piece was written and spread purposefully to misdirect the American public in the face of recent criticism that the US has no effective strategy against China's activities in the SCS. China certainly won't step out to correct them on such an "error" and that's what they're counting on to give some PR points to Trump.
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Man! I haven't had this much fun since Ronald Reagan occupied the White House! too bad we can't clone Mattis, and Pompeo!
Man I love it! The British and the French military are just as encouraged as I am to have Trump in the White House!
Ok, I gotta go turn down the radio, the "Honey Badger" is scowling! I don't think she likes "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!"
Those who have been preparing for hostilities use all forms of military strategies. Leaders/Politicians of all shades will initially gloat at their "successes" in making threats, & thinking their opponents would be afraid etc. They are usually happy to be cheered by their supporters and allies for their "bravery". A Chinese saying worth noting is "Pride goes before a fall; a haughty Army (my add on: Other Military Forces) will definitely lose in battle. Another good quote was by Winston Churchill: "If we open a quarrel between past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future".