China's SCS Strategy Thread

[Jura The idiot]

You brought up an interesting point ...

are you trolling me? I remember you, you're that ten-billion-for-Bhutan from
#19 AndrewS, Aug 24, 2017
LOL

 

[Jura The idiot]

Yesterday at 6:13 PM

I knew I had heard "Xisha" before ... May 20, 2018anyway,
China warns US warships to leave South China Sea
Updated 2018-05-27 23:39 GMT+8

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now NavalToday story
US warships sail near Chinese-claimed Paracel Islands in South China Sea

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A US Navy Arleigh Burke-class destroyer and a Ticonderoga-class cruiser sailed near South China Sea islands claimed by China in a freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) on May 27.

USS Higgins (DDG-76) and USS Antietam (CG-54) sailed within 12 nautical miles of the Paracel Islands, which are controlled by China. Referred to as Xisha Islands in Chinese, the islands are also claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam.

Destroyer USS Higgins joined the FONOP after launching 23 Tomahawk missiles in the

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on Syrian chemical facilities in April this year.

Freedom of navigation operations are regularly conducted by the US Navy. The operation on Sunday was the sixth known FONOP carried out since US president Donald Trump took office. However, this is likely the first time the US Navy has sent two warships to challenge China’s claims in the South China Sea.

The operation on Sunday comes shortly after Pentagon announced its decision to

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from its flagship international naval exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) off Hawaii this summer.

According to the official Chinese People’s Liberation Army(PLA) news website, Chinese military deployed warships and aircraft to identify and verify the US warships and to warn them off.

China’s defense ministry said the US action near Xisha Islands was a “serious infringement on China’s sovereignty”.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Sunday at 6:13 PM

I knew I had heard "Xisha" before ... May 20, 2018anyway,
China warns US warships to leave South China Sea
Updated 2018-05-27 23:39 GMT+8

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now the USNI News
Two U.S. Warships Conduct South China Sea Freedom Of Navigation Operation

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and since nothing happened I add those who picked up the date (May 27) weren't superstitious (the Bismarck 1941, Tsushima Strait 1905) LOL

 

[Jura The idiot]

now I read
China urges U.S. to stop hyping up South China Sea issue
Xinhua| 2018-05-31 19:50:15

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China on Thursday urged the United States to stop hyping up the South China Sea issue, after U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis said the United States would continue to confront China on militarization of islands in the South China Sea.

"Hyping up militarization in the South China Sea by some people in the U.S. is quite preposterous, just like a thief crying 'stop thief'," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said at a daily press briefing.

She said that the military forces deployed by the United States far exceed those combined by China and other coastal countries in the South China Sea.

"China is not the first country or the one deploying the largest amount of weapons in the South China Sea, nor is it the most militarily active country in the region," Hua said. "So who is pushing 'militarization' in the South China Sea? The answer is quite clear."

She said it is legitimate and justified for China to deploy necessary and limited national defense facilities on its own islands and reefs, as it is exercising its self-defense right as endowed by the international law.

"China adopts a national defense policy that is defensive in nature, and we will not attack others unless we are attacked," Hua said.

She called on the United States to abandon meaningless hype and do more things conducive to mutual trust, cooperation, and regional peace and stability.

In response to the U.S. move to rename Pacific Command to U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, Hua called on the United States to act responsibly in the Asia Pacific region no matter how the name is changed, and to play a constructive role in regional peace and stability.

 

[antiterror13]

Sunday at 6:13 PM
now the USNI News
Two U.S. Warships Conduct South China Sea Freedom Of Navigation Operation

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and since nothing happened I add those who picked up the date (May 27) weren't superstitious (the Bismarck 1941, Tsushima Strait 1905) LOL

well, definitely PLA would respond by enforcing the defence on the islands ... perhaps to put more AshM (YJ-18 ? ) and/or SAM HQ-9B and others missile systems ... now they would have a perfect justification doing that ... well done

 

[Hendrik_2000]

well, definitely PLA would respond by enforcing the defence on the islands ... perhaps to put more AshM (YJ-18 ? ) and/or SAM HQ-9B and others missile systems ... now they would have a perfect justification doing that ... well done

Better still station a regiment of J11B combine with JH7A add KQ200 and KJ 500 in those island
On naval side permanent stationing of Type 56 and one submarine maybe the older Song
Station a battalion of marine with ZTD 5
What are they waiting the Empire is threatening with take down citing their experience in WWII But this 2015 the era of missile and precision strike and all seeing and know satellite

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US warns of ability to take down Chinese artificial islands
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Updated 9:55 PM ET, Thu May 31, 2018

 

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China air force lands bombers on South China Sea island

"China's air force has landed bombers on islands and reefs in the South China Sea as part of a training exercise in the disputed region, it said in a statement.

It said the pilot of the H-6K bomber conducted assault training on a designated sea target and then carried out take-offs and landings at an airport in the area, describing the exercise as preparation for "the West Pacific and the battle for the South China Sea"."

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[PanAsian]

well, definitely PLA would respond by enforcing the defence on the islands ... perhaps to put more AshM (YJ-18 ? ) and/or SAM HQ-9B and others missile systems ... now they would have a perfect justification doing that ... well done

Better still station a regiment of J11B combine with JH7A add KQ200 and KJ 500 in those island
On naval side permanent stationing of Type 56 and one submarine maybe the older Song
Station a battalion of marine with ZTD 5
What are they waiting the Empire is threatening with take down citing their experience in WWII But this 2015 the era of missile and precision strike and all seeing and know satellite

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US warns of ability to take down Chinese artificial islands
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Updated 9:55 PM ET, Thu May 31, 2018

Since both the US and China have stated that Chinese ships have responded to every USN FONOP operating close to Chinese islands in the SCS there must be a rotation of Chinese ships based at or patrolling near those islands. Is there a list somewhere of all USN FONOPs in the SCS listing the USN ships involved in each as well as the Chinese ships that have responded to each?

 

[antiterror13]

Since both the US and China have stated that Chinese ships have responded to every USN FONOP operating close to Chinese islands in the SCS there must be a rotation of Chinese ships based at or patrolling near those islands. Is there a list somewhere of all USN FONOPs in the SCS listing the USN ships involved in each as well as the Chinese ships that have responded to each?

I believe the USN would have to do that to show to the region that the US still a main force there and Chinese navy will keep doing so (responding), I believe there is an agreement between these two super powers to keep doing so ... not a big deal.

In reality PLA has already controlled the whole SCS ..... but all ships would still sail pass through, not problem at all

 

[Jura The idiot]

there're no posts in https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/south-china-sea-strategies-for-other-nations-not-china.t7302/ anymore, so here ...

... Mattis takes hard line on China in Singapore speech

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US Defense Secretary James Mattis accused China of "intimidation and coercion" in the Indo-Pacific and declared that the United States does not plan to abandon its role in the region during a speech Saturday in Singapore.
"Make no mistake: America is in the Indo-Pacific to stay. This is our priority theater," Mattis said.
Mattis specifically called out Beijing's militarization of artificial islands in the South China Sea, home to some of the world's busiest sea lanes.
"We are aware China will face an array of challenges and opportunities in coming years, we are prepared to support China's choices if they promote long-term peace and prosperity for all in this dynamic region," Mattis said.
"Yet China's policy in the South China Sea stands in stark contrast to the openness our strategy promotes. It calls into question China's broader goals," he said.
Mattis and some of his counterparts from the Asia Pacific region are in Singapore for the Shangri-La Dialogue, an annual gathering of security officials, contractors and academics in the Asian city-state.

Tensions in the South China Sea
The South China Sea has been a hot topic of discussion during the summit's opening, amid ongoing attempts by China to assert its dominance in the region.
China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines and Brunei all have competing claims to the territory. But while other countries have built military features and artificial islands, none come close to matching Beijing's in scale or ambition, which stretch hundreds of miles south and east from its most southerly province of Hainan.
In May, the Chinese military landed nuclear-capable bombers on its artificial islands for the first time.
Weeks earlier, US intelligence announced there was a high possibility Beijing had deployed anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles as part of ongoing military exercises.
"China's militarization of artificial features in the South China Sea includes the deployment of anti-ship missiles, surface-to-air missiles, electronic jammers and, more recently, the landing of bomber aircraft at woody island," said Mattis, confirming previous intelligence reports.
"Despite China's claims to the contrary, the placement of these weapon systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation and coercion," he said.

On Sunday, two US Navy warships sailed close to a handful of disputed islands claimed by China in the Paracel island chain, east of Vietnam, in a move that drew the ire of Beijing.
"I think it goes to a fundamental disconnect between the way the international tribunals have looked at these waters -- these waters look to us as free and open waters," said Mattis, addressing last week's freedom of navigation operation directly.
"We do not do freedom of navigation for America alone, we do freedom of navigation for all nations ... we do not see it as a militarization by going through what has traditionally been international water space. We see it as affirmation of the rules-based international order."
Though Mattis appeared to draw a firm line between the actions of the US and China, he insisted the US is not asking other countries in the region to choose sides.
"China should and does have a voice in shaping the international system, and all of China's neighbors have a voice in shaping China's role," said Mattis, adding that he would travel to Beijing soon "at China's invitation."
China claims its actions in the South China Sea are entirely peaceful and meant to protect its citizens and trading interests.

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... and the article moves to Korea etc.; it's on top of us.cnn.com right now