China's SCS Strategy Thread

MortyandRick

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As mentioned by others, it doesn't change the balance of power here. Those ships will get repaired (call it job security for those in the shipyard I guess). Give it a few weeks and everyone will move on.

Pray for those that got injured or lost their lives, learn from it, and hope next time coastguards get some new toys to catch up to those Japanese made boats. (022 coast guard decal when?)
People on this forum complain about the event, but if one looks at the location, it's pretty obvious China has destroyers throughout reaches of the entire SCS. Sure they make a mistake now and then but their slow domination of the SCS is still progressing.

Just like when Russia has a setback, lot of new and some old posters come out to post disparaging takes. Similar to this situation.

I think this even will make china more proactive and push further out
 

MwRYum

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In fact, no, there is a procedure for escalating force within the framework of maritime law enforcement. Please don't let the idiotic hawkish habits of Weibo spread here, thank you.
Escalation of force is necessary and justified because the current measures clearly does not yield desirable effect.

And "idiotic hawkish habits of Weibo" would've been "glass the entire Luzon Island" but I've been refraining from calling for it, am I not?
 

AndrewJ

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A Weibo blogger who has been following CCG for a long time hinted that there were casualties.
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With reference to Galwan, I personally don't think this will end here. CCG will likely temporarily relax the restrictions on escalating forces, not just as easy as somebody losing a finger anymore.
Confirm people dead/injured.

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(Just in) The author reclarified his former statements in a later comment, that he didn't know any details of the casualties, and the candles he posted there don't mean that some were dead/injured.

Too many guys overinterpreted his post. Some are angry at him now. :rolleyes:

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4Tran

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If China wanted these games to end tomorrow they can simply sanction Phillipines economically. China is Philippines's largest trading partner and can easily cripple their economy. I don't know why China uses the kinetic option when they don't have to. There's already good example with the US using its economical heft to shake down even its allies, it's perfectly reasonabe to do it against belligerent states.
China isn't going to use sanctions unless there's an extreme reason for it. It's not the US, and it doesn't like using economic weapons willy-nilly. A bit of pushing around by the Coast Guard is a relatively measured response and it has worked quite well for the last decade and a half.

Escalation of force is necessary and justified because the current measures clearly does not yield desirable effect.

And "idiotic hawkish habits of Weibo" would've been "glass the entire Luzon Island" but I've been refraining from calling for it, am I not?
But it's not necessary because China is already winning, and quite handily at that. Philippines is trying to disrupt China's strategy, and they're failing at it.
 

valysre

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What an embarrassing performance... someone shall certainly be court-martialed for this. Why exactly the PLAN brought such a large ship into such close quarters is a question that must also be asked.

We must also ask if the PLAN and CCG share the necessary communication channels to coordinate the prevention of such incidents in the first place. Why did both ships pursue so tightly? One should think that the risk of a collision is readily apparent, and steps should be taken to communicate and avoid a collision.

We must also question the behavior of the PLAN and CCG ships following the collision. As I understand it, the CCG personnel are likely in the custody of the Filipinos. If this is true, it is unacceptable. Not only do these two captains engage in a reckless and ill-advised (particularly in the case of the PLAN vessel) pursuit, but after the almost-inevitable collision, they flee without attempting to rescue their own men.

I hope this incident results in some reconsideration of deployment tactics in the SCS, and that the PLAN especially stops bringing such massive guided-missile destroyers into knife-fighting range of ships far smaller, lighter, and nimbler than themselves.
 

zyklon

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Fair enough — but it’s impressive how closely your ‘personal analysis’ mirrors the exact framing and jargon in official Chinese strategic discourse. The structure, the historical analogies, even the sequencing of Belt and Road → Five Principles → sovereignty disputes → US suppression — it’s like a checklist from Beijing’s playbook. And on the South China Sea specifically, the ‘limited friction with sustained presence’ concept you used is almost word-for-word from PLA gray-zone tactics training, right down to the emphasis on keeping just enough tension to assert claims without sparking full conflict.
Interesting timing — right after the two Chinese ships collide, we suddenly @ToughWinding's sweeping 1,000-word essay about US–China power transitions. Almost like someone didn’t want to linger on the fact that two Chinese ships managed to ram each other in calm seas.

If you are accusing @ToughWinding of being a "bot" or narrative shaper of some variety or another pushing state sponsored messaging, you'll want to be more blunt about it.

If you haven't noticed, some of the posters here might not be as bright or as informed as yourself.

Not at this speed. Even far more experienced and professional navies, such as the US Navy, have accidents. Of course, the US Navy’s accidents don’t usually involve chasing a fishing boat, blinding people with lasers, or ramming each other in calm seas.
True — at least when a US ship collides, it’s usually with a massive tanker, not a friendly vessel in the same formation.

Things must be looking pretty grim on your side of the ledger if the need to celebrate and feel smug about a PLAN-CCG collision is what draws you out of the woodwork.

Nice essay, but the headline is still ‘PLAN ship hits CCG ship.’ Everything else is just wallpaper.
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We both know that ain't going to gaslight a fellow seasoned skeptic.

Regardless, appreciate the praise!
 

AETHER

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(Just in) The author reclarified his former statements in a later comment, that he didn't know any details of the casualties, and the candles he posted there don't mean that some were dead/injured.

Too many guys overinterpreted his post. Some are angry at him now. :rolleyes:

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it is pretty obvious he implied there are casualties by those candle emojis, he only later clarified to protect him from responsibilities
 

Maikeru

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It would be rather disappointing if they will not even come public with loss of life, these men died in their line of duty, the government should alteast acknowledge their service and not sweep it under the rug.
Hard agree. Do not behave like India.

The whole thing is reminiscent of the Cod Wars between UK and Iceland. RN frigates playing dodgems with Icelandic fishing boats. Didn't end well for RN:

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Britain deployed a total of 22 frigates and ordered the reactivation from reserve of the
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and
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, refitting them as specialist ramming craft with reinforced wooden bows. In addition to the frigates, the British also deployed a total of seven supply ships, nine tugboats and three support ships to protect its fishing trawlers, but only six to nine of the vessels were on deployment at any one time.
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The Royal Navy was prepared to accept serious damage to its Cold War frigate fleet, costing millions and disabling part of its North Atlantic capacity for more than a year.
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had its bow torn off,
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had a 40 ft gash ripped through her hull, and
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suffered such structural damage from ramming by Icelandic gunboats that it was assessed as being no longer fit for sea service and was reduced to a moored operational training frigate.
 
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arthur2046

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it is pretty obvious he implied there are casualties by those candle emojis, he only later clarified to protect him from responsibilities
He wrote about three candles, which led many to mistakenly believe that three people had died. He clarified this to avoid misunderstanding, and it had nothing to do with responsibility.
 
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