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China and Russia will carry out a joint navy exercise between April and May, a Defense Ministry spokesman said on Thursday.

The military drill will take place based on a consensus reached between Chen Bingde, chief of the General Staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, and Russian military leaders, spokesman Yang Yujun said at a monthly press briefing.

The two sides are preparing for the joint exercise, which is aimed at deepening the Sino-Russian strategic partnership of cooperation, Yang said.

"It's also designed to improve both countries' abilities to cope with challenges and safeguard peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region and the world at large," Yang said.

Since 2005, China and Russia have conducted several joint military exercises within the framework of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
 

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The Chinese mainland agrees to exchange views with Taiwan on military issues "in due time" and discuss establishing a mechanism of cross-Strait military mutual trust, a mainland official said Wednesday.

Such a mechanism is aimed at "stabilizing the situation across the Taiwan Strait and alleviating security concerns," Yang Yi, spokesman for the State Council Taiwan Affairs Office, said at a regular press conference.

"We are glad to see scholars discuss the issues," Yang said, in response to questions.

When commenting on the establishment of a "cross-Strait peaceful development committee," proposed by a national political advisor from the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region earlier this month, Yang said, "Any opinions and suggestions that are conducive to cross-Strait relations can be put forward and discussed."

Furthermore, Yang said the all issues are open to discussion so long as the fact that both sides belong to one China is recognized.
 

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China is a victim of cyber attacks, a spokesman with the country's Ministry of National Defense said Thursday.

  Spokesman Yang Yujun said at a press briefing that the websites of the ministry and the Chinese military received an average of over 80,000 cyber attacks from overseas each month from January to March.

  "However, we have never blamed any country for this," Yang said, adding that the Chinese side believes that groundless accusations only increase doubt and spoil mutual trust between nations, and do not help to solve problems.

  In response to accusations that the Chinese military backs hackers in attacking other countries' facilities, Yang said cyber attacks know no boundaries and are not easily identified, so it is "unprofessional and irresponsible" to make judgements without thorough investigation and reliable evidence.

  Chinese laws forbids hacking and any other behavior harmful to the security of the Internet, said the spokesman.

  The issue of Internet security has become a shared challenge for the entire world, Yang said, urging all countries to work together to safeguard Internet security.

  "We hope that all sides concerned will make more efforts to enhance mutual trust and maintain the security of cyberspace," said the spokesman.
 

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 A joint operation equipment mobilization drill was conducted in Hainan in late March. According to the briefing, the purpose of the drill was to explore a new way of joint operation equipment mobilization featuring “precise calculation of demand, real-time potential data, network-based command and coordination, and integrated organization and implementation” under information-based conditions in a bid to achieve simultaneous civil and military online collection of equipment mobilization.

  “80 support vehicles in 22 categories, 162 sets of support equipment in 27 types and 37,500 pieces of aviation equipment in 73 sets…”asked the air combat group when making urgent demands to the mobilization center during the drill. It took less than 20 minutes to complete the whole process from making demands to providing support thanks to the equipment mobilization information system. “The change of operational model has greatly boosted the support capability”, said Tan Benhong, commander of the Hainan Provincial Military Command (PMC) of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA). The equipment mobilization information system was adopted for the first time during the drill to realize real-time update of the potential resources of equipment mobilization and online connection of equipment mobilization demands. The support efficiency was greatly enhanced.

  It is learned that in order to build a reserve system of equipment mobilization resources covering the whole theater, the Armament Department of the Guangzhou Military Area Command (MAC) of the PLA has built an equipment mobilization center which integrated functions like equipment manufacturing and maintenance and spare parts processing with support from over a hundred electronic information, engineering machinery, vehicle, ship and air transport enterprises.

  The Armament Department of the Guangzhou MAC of the PLA has established nearly a hundred equipment mobilization storage houses in various large- and medium-sized cities, set up more than 300 equipment mobilization maintenance stations along major arterial roads and organized over 500 militia equipment support detachments.
 

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Cooperation between China, India and Japan on international naval escort activities was proceeding smoothly, said a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Thursday.

As the reference country of the first quarter, China announced its escort schedule in time and India and Japan made their own escorting plans accordingly so that the three managed to carry out their escort operations in a more orderly and efficient way, Yang Yujun said at a monthly press briefing.

The practice had won acknowledgement from the shipping industry and the countries and international organizations concerned, said the spokesman.

Yang said that India will be the next reference country from April to June, followed by Japan in the third quarter of this year.

"Some other countries have also expressed their wishes to take part in the coordination mechanism," said the spokesman.

China sent its first convoy fleet to the Gulf of Aden and Somali waters in December 2008. Last month, a Chinese military official said the country had deployed 10 navy flotillas, including 25 warships, 22 helicopters and over 8,400 officers and soldiers to the Gulf of Aden for escort missions over the past years.
 

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A civilian cargo plane is loading weapons and equipment for transportation. (PLA Daily/Li Wei)

A civilian airliner full of officers and men from an airborne troop unit under the Air Force of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and a civilian cargo plane loaded with large combat equipment roared off from the hinterland of the Central Plains of China on the morning of March 26, while another civilian aircraft which was responsible for transporting the officers and men of an aviation division of the PLA Air Force, who undertake stationed training tasks on the plateau, landed at the predetermined location. At the same time, thousands of the PLA Air Force officers and men were moving day and night in trans-regional maneuver to the area for stationed training a thousand miles away by multiple means such as railway transportation, motorized movement on highways, expropriated passenger ships and cargo ships on waterways, etc.

This projection operation organized by the PLA Air Force examined the long-range military force projection mode in terms of utilization of the civil aviation transportation power to secure the movement of troop units, and the integrated usage of the multiple transportation means of railways, waterways, highways and others for projecting organic troop units.

When the civilian aircraft bound for the plateau squarely landed at an airport, a commanding officer stepped off the plane and said: “It used to take several days to travel to the plateau for stationed training by train, but today, the air transport took us less than four hours. It has fully enhanced the PLA Air Force's combat capability as evidenced by response in all regions, projection to all Chinese borders and utilization of all-range resources.”

At 15:00 when another civilian airliner carrying troop units landed safely at an airport in east China, the officers and men quickly passed the green channel of the airport and made motorized movement to the place for stationed training. At this point, the troop units for stationed training transported via railways, waterways and highways had also successively arrived at the unloading stations and points.

It is learned that this year, the PLA Air Force plans to combine multiple major missions such as motorized stationed training, live-ammunition target practice and confrontation exercises and organize dozens of troop units to implement the comprehensive three-dimensional projection of organic troop units.
 

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This coincides with the hacker story I posted in the other thread. You see this attitude in forums like these when you always have someone arguing China has missed/forgot something important. Ironically some of the comments to the AFP article are doing using this to commit the very charge the article is making. Just shows why there's a problem with how they estimate.

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US miscalculates China military growth: study
AFP – Thu, Apr 5, 2012

The United States has underestimated the growth of China's military as policymakers have taken public statements at face value or failed to understand Beijing's thinking, a study said Thursday.

The report prepared for the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission said the United States had a mixed record on predicting the rising power's new weaponry, including largely missing the emergence of more advanced submarines.

As for the speed of military modernization, the study found "identifiable cases of miscalculation" with China developing anti-ship ballistic missiles and stealth fighter-jets earlier than the United States expected.

US analysis could have improved if more experts read Chinese or even looked at open publications such as academic technical journals, it said.

"US observers should not take at face value statements from the Chinese government on military policy, as they could either be deceptive, or simply issued by agencies" such as the foreign ministry "that have no real say over military matters," it said.

The staff report was prepared for the Commission, which was set up by Congress in 2000 to assess security implications from China, and does not represent the view of the body or of the US government.

The study said that US experts "may have failed to fully appreciate the extent to which the Chinese leadership views the United States as a fundamental threat to China's security."

It said that China's views were "inflamed" by incidents including the 1999 bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, which the United States said was accidental, and the US show of naval force near Taiwan in 1996 after Beijing's missile tests.

The study said that US experts assumed in the late 1990s that China would never catch up militarily to the United States and would put a low priority on its defense industry compared with other parts of the economy.

"A decade on, it is now clear that much of the conventional wisdom about China dating from the turn of the century has proven to be dramatically wrong," it said.

"To avoid being similarly caught off-guard in 2022, US analysts should carefully reexamine many of their widely held assumptions about the Chinese government and its policy goals," it said.

China said its military spending will top $100 billion in 2012, the latest sharp increase. While many experts believe its actual spending is much higher, it remains far below the $613 billion requested by the US Defense Department for fiscal year 2013.

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PLA-watchers mind their language
By Jens Kastner

TAIPEI - American predictions on the speed with which China modernizes the People's Liberation Army (PLA) have more than once proved embarrassingly wrong. A factor for the dangerous shortcoming is researchers' reluctance to flip through open-source material from China, according to a latest study.

A newly-published report from the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission [1] singles out the development of four Chinese weapon systems that has been grossly underestimated.

There's the Yuan-class diesel-electric attack submarine, which was unexpectedly unveiled in 2004, and to the astonishment of US analysts even came along with air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems, greatly enhancing the subs' endurance. Then there's the anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon, which in 2007 destroyed



China's own satellite in a successful test firing, and the Dongfeng-21D, the ballistic anti-ship missile, announced in 2010, that can reputedly take on US aircraft carriers. Early in 2011, it was the test flight footage of China's prototype fifth-generation J-20 stealth fighter that caused a worldwide stir.

All these weapon systems had been subject to some form of Western monitoring, but estimates expected them to reach operational capabilities years later than they did.

One of the study's conclusions is intriguing. It suggests that a good deal of blame for researchers' failure to circumvent Chinese "information denial and deceptions", as well as to avoid underestimations and misjudgments, is a general failure to exploit open-source Chinese-language materials.

"Some of the past flaws in analysis on China's weapons program could have been partially corrected by increased attention to open-source materials, particularly in regards to academic technical journals and related publications," the study finds.

"Increased attention to the messages in authoritative PRC [People's Republic of China] media and political science publications would also have improved understanding of the worldview of the Chinese leadership."

United States observers furthermore make the mistake of taking statements from the Chinese government on military policy at face value, even as they could either be deceptive, or simply issued by agencies that have no real say over military matters, it adds.

While it is difficult to grasp why Western researchers spending their entire careers studying the PLA would choose to neglect military-related literature from China, they, too, have their convincing arguments. As Beijing refuses to divulge important technical and tactical literature, what ends up being actually published is meant as a deception anyway, deliberately laying false trails for China's opponents, they say.

It's furthermore argued that open-source research can only represent the tip of the iceberg of information, and what should be taken into account much more completely than Chinese-language academic technical journals is material on Chinese internal politics and preferably that from non-Chinese, and therefore trustworthy, sources.

United States researchers who do actually resort to Chinese-language material even often enough come under attack by their academic peers. John F Copper, a professor of international studies at Rhodes College in Memphis, Tennessee, shed light on one such example in an interview with Asia Times Online.

"Michael Pillsbury is one of the few military experts in the US that reads Chinese," Copper said, referring to a senior defense policy adviser, whose idea that Washington should establish intelligence and military ties with Beijing became US policy during the Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan administrations.

"He published using this skill and became disliked by many people in the US government and academia because of what he said about China's progress," Copper said.

Copper then brought into account that many other US military experts on China do not rely on reading Chinese documents. Copper said this could be due to the perception that it would amount to a too formidable task to both assess the military significance of China's progress and read Chinese. He also pointed out that it has been said that naivete and racism plays a certain role in the attitude of not realizing that China's military produces breakthroughs in leaps and bounds.

To illustrate that it could well be an intolerable lot slipping through the West's fingers, Copper then took a historical excursion.

"Many China experts have no realization of China's historical attainments in weapons. Most of them know that China invented gunpowder but believe they never used it for anything. They take little or no notice of the fact China invented the crossbow, missiles, etc," Copper said.

Westerners almost never take on explaining the historical fact that the Mongols - though in the old days only numbering a few million and illiterate - managed to built the largest empire in human history, Copper furthermore pointed out. "How did they do this? They learned Chinese and utilized the advanced military technology that China possessed."

Another US academic who came under fire for drawing extensively on Chinese-language open-source material is James Holmes, an associate professor at the US Naval War College and co-author of Red Star over the Pacific: China's Rise and the Challenge to US. Maritime Strategy.

According to Holmes, at least as important as a naval fleet's technical characteristics on paper - tonnages, fuel capacity, missile ranges, etc - is the human factor. He who neglects Chinese literature doesn't know how well seamen and airmen will handle all the weapons and tactics they'll have at hand in battle, and neither will they come to understand how China's strategists think, let alone its political cast.

Holmes argues that the political leadership in Beijing is bombarded by conflicting opinions of military advisors, and only by taking these voices' commentaries that are often published in Chinese media or learned journals thoroughly into account, US analysts can fully apprehend which schools of thought end up shaping the decision-making processes in China in the end of the day.

In an interview with Asia Times Online, Holmes emphasized that there are actually two "languages" involved with studying Chinese military development, namely Mandarin and the language of strategy, operations, and tactics, but that the circle of people who speak both "languages" fluently is rather small.

He then expounded on mistakes seemingly being made.

"There is a tendency to [neglect open-source material but to instead] see official documents as the final authority on important matters and to insist that the way to understand and forecast developments is to learn to read between the lines in these government-issued writings - to discern all the coded messages that supposedly lurk in there," Holmes said.

"But although reading and parsing official documents provides an important part of the picture, it's just not the whole picture. [It has to be taken into account that] the authors of such documents have a range of incentives and pressures, from ideological to group-think to simple careerism, that may shade what they write."
Holmes finally took on the wide-spread notion that all Chinese open-source information is censored and thus worthless. "It's worth pointing out that the People's Republic of China is no Soviet Union, morbidly obsessed with secrecy," he said.

"It is open and transparent for a closed society. Indeed, we would rate China above democratic India and Japan along this axis. We recently had a Chinese book on fleet tactics delivered to our doorstep in Rhode Island, courtesy of Amazon.cn."

Note
1. The US-China Economic and Security Review Commission was created by the United States Congress in October 2000 with the legislative mandate to monitor, investigate, and submit to congress an annual report on the national security implications of the bilateral trade and economic relationship between the United States and the People’s Republic of China, and to provide recommendations, where appropriate, to congress for legislative and administrative action.

Jens Kastner is a Taipei-based journalist.

(Copyright 2012 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)
 

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The debate on the growth of China's blue water naval capabilities has intensified over the last year, as the rebuilt former Soviet aircraft carrier Varyag, sister ship to Russia's sole carrier, the Kuznetsov, continues with sea trials, which commenced during 2011. The Varyag lay abandoned in a Ukrainian shipyard, was procured as scrap, towed to Dalian in China, rebuilt and refitted, and is now being prepared for eventual operational use. At least one derelict Su-27K Flanker D prototype was also acquired in the Ukraine...
 

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PLA-watchers mind their language
By Jens Kastner

TAIPEI - American predictions on the speed with which China modernizes the People's Liberation Army (PLA) have more than once proved embarrassingly wrong. A factor for the dangerous shortcoming is researchers' reluctance to flip through open-source material from China, according to a latest study.

I can't help to laugh out loud. It is so true, so to laugh out loud.

Many posters here at SDF should get the pays the congress always sending away to those "researchers".
 

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The reason why they lack language skilled experts is why they're in that bind anyway. Same situation with Arabic speaking experts during the Iraq War. There was that movie several years ago. I forgot what it was called but it was about the birth of the CIA back around WWII. It starred Matt Damon. It tells you where that kind of culture started. They only recruited rich Americans to be spies because they thought rich people with a stake in US prosperity were the only trustworthy people.

I've had people outright tell me with no cause of how Chinese is an ugly language. Their need to mention that shows how they value the superficialities of language only to which was why French was the most favored language to learn in US high schools for decades. They only want to learn romantic languages. So you can see why there are not many Chinese language experts where they're needed.

Or how about when you watch some news program and there's a discussion of experts on China, there's only one guy, Minxin Pei, who you see who's Chinese talking about China. Everyone else is not. And Minxin Pei is notorious for telling Americans what they want to hear. That just shows they don't really want a real discussion but just their beliefs confirmed. There was a story recently that accused China of buying American computers and selling them to Iran for use in their nuclear program. Well they couldn't be high tech supercomputers because those are banned from being sold to China. So either they're the low-end personal computers that are allowed to be sold to China or they refuse to acknowledge there's an allied friendly country that sold them to China who in turn sold them to Iran. Stuxnet targeted Sieman's technology that supposedly sabotaged Iranian centrifuges. I thought the West doesn't do business with Iran especially in high-tech. So China is the only criminal? The list goes on...

What it tells is solving the supposed problems they complain about is furthest from their minds. If they actually wanted these problems to be solved, wouldn't the fastest way be to deal with truthful facts? They think stopping China from selling computers to Iran is going to stop their nuclear program? What about the Germans selling their technology to the Iranians? If it's stop either/or that ends it all, then who would be easier to influence to stop selling technology to Iran? The Germans or the Chinese? They chose the Chinese who have a history of disobeying the West. How absurd is that if they actually wanted the Iranian nuclear program stopped? I'm not throwing out conspiracy theories here. This is a case of simple narcissism.

One of the articles I posted suggested to understand why China is going through a military modernization is people should look about their own actions first instead of thinking it's just a plan for conquest. It's suggested that China's military modernization was instigated by two events. The bombing of the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia and the US carrier that sailed through the Taiwan Straits as a message to China. A narcissus does not recognize their actions have consequences. I'll point to another event. The bugging of the Chinese Air Force One. Can you imagine how the US would react if Americans found out that China had bugged Air Force One. It would result in a seismic shift in Sino-US relations to the negative. But instead they were the ones that did it to China and they think absolutely nothing of it to where they don't care to know or remember it. And someone wants to sound the alarm bells when it's accused China sold a personal computer to Iran? None of this is about solving problems and they don't understand why China doesn't obey.
 
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