China to recieve an Export Waiver for the C-130

sealordlawrence

Junior Member
Re: the U.S will sell C-130 to China

Calm down everybody, its C130 for civilian disaster relief operations. It will be stripped of all military equipment and will be no different to any other civilian aircraft. The speculation in this thread is wild and pointless.
 

Schumacher

Senior Member
Re: the U.S will sell C-130 to China

I agree this only means Y-9 is going well.
And how does this end up in the Navy thread anyway ?
 

bingo

Junior Member
Re: the U.S will sell C-130 to China

Why would China be interested in the C-130 when it is fully capable of developing its own? F-15 and F-22, China will consider.

I think the only reason why US or Europe will reconsider arms sales to China, is because they want to reduce their trade deficit with China.

But the problem this strategy will run into is that China has policy of importing only raw materials - iron ore, crude oil, coal, corn .. or potentially some food grains. (Not counting the component imports which are re-exported after assembly, and hence do not help the trade deficit).

The arms fall in the category of manufactured items ... not raw material.

Even if China buys 10 or 25 billion USD of arms from the west, it won't correct the trade deficit.

Europe and US realize this .... and the arms ban survives till date, because there is no economic benefit of lifting it.
 

EDIATH

Junior Member
Re: the U.S will sell C-130 to China

The next step would be re-supplying the spare parts used on black hawk ;)

Is Y9 still on? Anyways a few C-130 wouldn't make much difference. Think about Il-76 or Mi-171, they are not relaxing a bit on domestic developments while importing them (or at least trying to) in large quantity from Russia. I would go further to say the same thing even if EU lifted the arms embargo, as China obviously regards industrialization itself a top priority.

Besides C-130 is powered by turboprops, nothing XAC doesn't know about.
 

dingyibvs

Senior Member
Unfortunately, China is not the least interested!

I think they should be. The C-130's themselves aren't very important, but such a deal could open doors not just for the U.S., but for all of its allies as well regarding weapons trade with China. Also, I don't think Obama would've gone to the trouble of requesting a waiver if China hasn't shown any interest.
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
VIP Professional
I think they should be. The C-130's themselves aren't very important, but such a deal could open doors not just for the U.S., but for all of its allies as well regarding weapons trade with China. Also, I don't think Obama would've gone to the trouble of requesting a waiver if China hasn't shown any interest.

Actually I think CHina should really consider getting a few of the C-130, not for the hardware but for political purposes.

Plus with the waiver of the C-130, it means that arms embargoment are coming to its end, even if this C-130 was more or less for civilian usage and not military.

US might have seen how foolish they really was to allow such a big market go without getting anything in returns. Norway had already been selling or close to the deal of selling high tech equipment to China that could be use to upgrade CHina's missiles because there simply has no competitor in this market.

And by selling hardware or even software to China, would not really make China that credible a threat as many China-threat analysis would have thought. Russia had been selling weapons to CHina and even if China managed to reverse engineered her Su-27, it will not pose any threat to Russia's security too. The only damage will be sales of future Su-27 to potential customers.

However in US scenario, it will not pose much threat too. CHina's target market will be the third world countries who could not afford the US made equipment, while US's customers are still developed nations who for many reasons would not buy weapons from China (traditional sentiments, political consideration, etc).

Thus why let the Nowagien get the market to themselves, and not going in for a piece of the pie too?
 
Actually I think CHina should really consider getting a few of the C-130, not for the hardware but for political purposes.

Plus with the waiver of the C-130, it means that arms embargoment are coming to its end, even if this C-130 was more or less for civilian usage and not military.

US might have seen how foolish they really was to allow such a big market go without getting anything in returns. Norway had already been selling or close to the deal of selling high tech equipment to China that could be use to upgrade CHina's missiles because there simply has no competitor in this market.

And by selling hardware or even software to China, would not really make China that credible a threat as many China-threat analysis would have thought. Russia had been selling weapons to CHina and even if China managed to reverse engineered her Su-27, it will not pose any threat to Russia's security too. The only damage will be sales of future Su-27 to potential customers.

However in US scenario, it will not pose much threat too. CHina's target market will be the third world countries who could not afford the US made equipment, while US's customers are still developed nations who for many reasons would not buy weapons from China (traditional sentiments, political consideration, etc).

Thus why let the Nowagien get the market to themselves, and not going in for a piece of the pie too?

howcome your post was the same that i've read yesteday? like, almost the exact same wording, like u remembered word by word of what you've written. and that's just scary
 

maozedong

Banned Idiot
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