China tells US to "shut up"

Obi Wan Russell

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I heard that interview too. Very refreshing to hear a politician speak with such honesty and passion, even if he was a bit excitable! Popeye is right about why the US DOD is painting China as a threat, a nations' armed forces best friends are its' enemies (they justify the armed forces existence), while the only real enemy is their own Government, who control the budget.
 

bd popeye

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Obi Wan Russell said:
I heard that interview too. Very refreshing to hear a politician speak with such honesty and passion, even if he was a bit excitable! Popeye is right about why the US DOD is painting China as a threat, a nations' armed forces best friends are its' enemies (they justify the armed forces existence), while the only real enemy is their own Government, who control the budget.

You better believe it. Those defense dollars have to keep rolling in to the DoD for it to operate like it does.

Going out for ice cream:nana: ya' tomorrow!
 

DennisDaMenace

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The only people I know of, who never ask questions are all fools.

OBI WAN

The USA- DOD does not make policy for the USA. The president does threw the state department. Granted, the USA does not have a right to ask such a question, or do they? The US has a very significant economic role in the far east. They also have US territorys and allies there.Not to note protected sea lanes. What then is your criteria
for asking such a question?
"I think thou does protest to much". The USA asked a question and it got its answer. I think it was not a very smart answer. The USA and its allies were only asking for reasurance from China, they got a black eye instead. This was not a smart move in my opinion- it only makes for more bad feelings. This is not a politcal board so I will now shut my mouth. I am just giving you a differnt view of things.
 
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DennisDaMenace said:
OBI WAN

The USA- DOD does not make policy for the USA. The president does threw the state department. Granted, the USA does not have a right to ask such a question, or do they? The US has a very significant economic role in the far east. They also have US territorys and allies there.Not to note protected sea lanes. What then is your criteria
for asking such a question?
"I think thou does protest to much". The USA asked a question and it got its answer. I think it was not a very smart answer. The USA and its allies were only asking for reasurance from China, they got a black eye instead. This was not a smart move in my opinion- it only makes for more bad feelings. This is not a politcal board so I will now shut my mouth. I am just giving you a differnt view of things.

The thing is this isn't an unanswered question, in fact this answer is made very clear on an annual basis as the CCP does publish a white paper document to describe all its spending and its objectives for modernization as well as the future role of the PLA, if the DOD and the US congress want their answer they can take the time to read that document.
 

DennisDaMenace

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So If what you say is true, why then did (not) the China diplomat say exactly what you said??? If the USA is trying to cause a misunderstanding why then did the China diplomat play right into it. I may not fully understand what is going on but the response that was given does not show what you are saying. All he had to say is exactly what you said- but he choose not too. So why is that?

You have choosen poorly grasshopper. Quote from old kungfu TV series, See KILL BILL
 

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DennisDaMenace said:
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So If what you say is true, why then did (not) the China diplomat say exactly what you said??? If the USA is trying to cause a misunderstanding why then did the China diplomat play right into it. I may not fully understand what is going on but the response that was given does not show what you are saying. All he had to say is exactly what you said- but he choose not too. So why is that?

You have choosen poorly grasshopper. Quote from old kungfu TV series, See KILL BILL

Because this has been said over and over again, in fact its been published, in english, and can be easily located the english version of the People's Daily as well as other Chinese news sources, the diplomat's outburst was envitable as these constant accusations by the US on China being a threat to world peace, as well as at the same time spending a huge amount of money on its own military and using an aggressive foreign policy in the extremely hypocritical and infuriating at times.
 
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I don't see that as a reason why he had to scream into the microphone. Diplomats are supposed to be diplomatic. As I said earlier, rule 1 is to realise that how you say something can heavily influence how it is received. He could have said the same thing in an even tone of voice and made a much better impact.

Maybe he felt annoyed. Tough luck. That's like Zidane saying he was provoked - it doesn't cut any ice. You want to play with the big diplomacy boys, you play by the rules.


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oringo

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Golly,

I think FuManChu has a valid point. I heard a clip of the interview where he was screaming "shut up." Now I didn't hear the question before that, but if you just listen to that part, it sounds very much like he is a lunatic. I think this is sort of like Howard Dean's "O-Ya" speech after he lost Democratic Primary election in Ohio. There are several points that I think need to be considered:

1. The Chinese diplomat might have been angered by some pervious questions asked. I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire interview, and most media sources probably would never play those questions. They know that drama attracts public attention.

2. The Chinese diplomat has a very valid point. That is, the Americans have as much right to question China's defence's spending as Chinese do America.

3. The bad delivery of his arguments achieved opposite effects.


FuManChu said:
I don't see that as a reason why he had to scream into the microphone. Diplomats are supposed to be diplomatic. As I said earlier, rule 1 is to realise that how you say something can heavily influence how it is received. He could have said the same thing in an even tone of voice and made a much better impact.

Maybe he felt annoyed. Tough luck. That's like Zidane saying he was provoked - it doesn't cut any ice. You want to play with the big diplomacy boys, you play by the rules.


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PeoplesPoster

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oringo said:
Golly,

I think FuManChu has a valid point. I heard a clip of the interview where he was screaming "shut up." Now I didn't hear the question before that, but if you just listen to that part, it sounds very much like he is a lunatic. I think this is sort of like Howard Dean's "O-Ya" speech after he lost Democratic Primary election in Ohio. There are several points that I think need to be considered:

1. The Chinese diplomat might have been angered by some pervious questions asked. I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire interview, and most media sources probably would never play those questions. They know that drama attracts public attention.

2. The Chinese diplomat has a very valid point. That is, the Americans have as much right to question China's defence's spending as Chinese do America.

3. The bad delivery of his arguments achieved opposite effects.


Here is the entire interview. The interviewer was very respectful and Sha Zhu Kang the diplomat reacted way out of line. A poor choice to represent China especially with China trying to change it's global image.

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oringo

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PeoplesPoster said:
Here is the entire interview. The interviewer was very respectful and Sha Zhu Kang the diplomat reacted way out of line. A poor choice to represent China especially with China trying to change it's global image.

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Thanks for providing that link. I just listened to it. However, I am disappointed as this "full interview" turned out to be another radio report put together with interview clips. This exactly how media tries to get attention. During the interview, you say something agreesive and suggestive to frustrate the interviewee. The interviewee then jumps and gets emotional. Then you edit out the original questions, and keep only the response. The result? A headline news about an angery Chinese diplomat.

Don't get me wrong, BBC is one of my favorite news sources. I just happened to believe that you can portray a person however your like to, if you start editing interviews.
 
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