China tells US to "shut up"
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Roger604 said:
Then looks like the media wants Americans to think differently.
I don't think it's any big deal myself. I think China's just trying to say "you guys spend on your military what you want, we are just doing the same for our own security." And also "No threat here, so no need to harp on our military spending." But it would help the USA "keep quiet" if China would make itself more transparent.
I think that the US doesn't really have a right to demand that China make it's military spending more transparent. That's a purely domestic issue. The US doesn't have a right to do anyhting about China's domestic matters as long as no human rights are being violated, and the same is true for China. (China can criticize on Guantanamo, the US can criticize on China's rights violations. The fact that both countries violate human rights means that no one will listen to either of them.) The only thing that really annoys me about this little incident is that if the US told China to "shut up" about something, China and quite possibly the world would be indignant at the display of American hubris, but when China does it no one notices.
Finn McCool said:
The U.S. is not making any demands of China on their military spending. They have asked questions about the purposes of some of the equipment and the growth of the Chinese military budget in general. And yes, they have a right to ask about it. I just don't think China is obliged to answer if they don't want to. But if they expect future cooperation with U.S. interests, they'd be wise to address U.S. concerns.
Sea Dog said:
Now, the part that I have problem with is this propoganda effort on the Chinese spending. We hear about the increase, but we don't hear about the fact that the increase in military spending is actually less than the increase in the total government spending. That to me is intentional misinformation. Especially, the part about Chinese budget being 2 to 3 times more. They calculated that using PPP. Well, you obviously can do more with 35 billion in China than in USA, but that doesn't mean China is lying if it uses nominal terms.
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To me, I don't even understand why USA is even questioning China about their military spending. USA is far more technologically advanced than China, they even have space weaponry, yet USA still continue to pressure China about their military might. China seems more like updating their outdated tanks, ships, and weapons to keep them in a more confident defensive stance. Perhaps USA doesn't want China to be powerful and strong, since they were very poor in the past and they want to take advantage of their economic strength.
If USA and China do go to war, the global economy would totally crash.
If USA and China do go to war, the global economy would totally crash.
LiLaZnMaGiCsCt said:
Responses like this possibly show how young some of you are. No offense intended towards anyone.
In my opinion the US has no business questioning the PRC's military spending. None what so ever. And the PRC does not need to answer.
The US DoD constantly mentions the PRC military build up to gain political favors from the US Congress to spend more money on more equipment and for futher R & D on new weapons. The US DoD has simply painted the PRC as it's new advasary much like it did the Soivets decades ago. To futher build against the PLA the US is gradually positioning more forces in the Pacific region.
You see "padawan's" that's how those games are played.
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Roger604 said:
No, the interview was made in English because it was done with BBC Radio 4. He said "shut up". I listened to it - I can tell you didn't, roger.
It's a shame, because he was far too shrill. He could have made the same point without screaming into the microphone. Chinese diplomacy all too often seems to miss the concept that the delivery is even more important than the content.
As a result I can guarantee that the US will not "shut up", so I don't see what the point of that was. Normally one could say he was playing to his home audience, but of course that interview will not be re-broadcast in China. Perhaps he's a secret admirer of John Bolton.......
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