tanlixiang28776
Junior Member
You know what would add insult to injury? China sends an all girl team next time and still pwns them.
China Takes home World Sniper Cup. 2011
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
I had expected them to be pissed to be loosing to people they consider inferior by nature, but to go so far is a bit of a surprise and a massive disappointment if true.
From this we can tell there was definitely bad blood between the Chinese and western teams. And in such cases, I hesitate to trust the word of either side as the absolute truth, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
I can easily believe that there was some discrimination and a bit of gamesmanship from the western teams, that probably spurred the Chinese team on to do their very best, and so might have actually helped to boost their performance, and so they probably should have thanked the western teams for doing what they claimed they did. Which might be precisely what they did.
But the Chinese team would have to be saints to not have any reaction, and might have done things to deliberately pi$$ off the western teams whenever they could. Be it rubbing it in a little when they rank higher than people who have been particularly annoying, or even going as far as to engage in a little gamesmanship of their own in retaliation.
It is a disappointing development no matter what the cause, as instead of building friendship and trust, this would have only served to entrenched the hostility and negative impressions they would have had about each other.
The western snipers still don't respect the Chinese teams and think they are not really better and somehow cheated, whereas the Chinese team would believe even more firmly that the west looks down on them and belittles their achievements and cannot accept Chinese not sucking at everything.
This is not a health impression for the common troopers to hold, as it will likely spread amongst the rank and file pretty quickly on all sides, and some of these grunts and low level officers who will be hearing all this first hand could easily be the generals and commanders of the future.
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airsuperiority
Captain
I had expected them to be pissed to be loosing to people they consider inferior by nature, but to go so far is a bit of a surprise and a massive disappointment if true.
From this we can tell there was definitely bad blood between the Chinese and western teams. And in such cases, I hesitate to trust the word of either side as the absolute truth, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
I can easily believe that there was some discrimination and a bit of gamesmanship from the western teams, that probably spurred the Chinese team on to do their very best, and so might have actually helped to boost their performance, and so they probably should have thanked the western teams for doing what they claimed they did. Which might be precisely what they did.
But the Chinese team would have to be saints to not have any reaction, and might have done things to deliberately pi$$ off the western teams whenever they could. Be it rubbing it in a little when they rank higher than people who have been particularly annoying, or even going as far as to engage in a little gamesmanship of their own in retaliation.
It is a disappointing development no matter what the cause, as instead of building friendship and trust, this would have only served to entrenched the hostility and negative impressions they would have had about each other.
The western snipers still don't respect the Chinese teams and think they are not really better and somehow cheated, whereas the Chinese team would believe even more firmly that the west looks down on them and belittles their achievements and cannot accept Chinese not sucking at everything.
This is not a health impression for the common troopers to hold, as it will likely spread amongst the rank and file pretty quickly on all sides, and some of these grunts and low level officers who will be hearing all this first hand could easily be the generals and commanders of the future.
For the Chinese to receive this perception, we can say the West takes the majority of the responsibility. The whole Asian contempt thing we don't have to go through again, but we should never forget the outgroup/ingroup mentality in psychology.
Equation
Lieutenant General
I had expected them to be pissed to be loosing to people they consider inferior by nature, but to go so far is a bit of a surprise and a massive disappointment if true.
From this we can tell there was definitely bad blood between the Chinese and western teams. And in such cases, I hesitate to trust the word of either side as the absolute truth, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
I can easily believe that there was some discrimination and a bit of gamesmanship from the western teams, that probably spurred the Chinese team on to do their very best, and so might have actually helped to boost their performance, and so they probably should have thanked the western teams for doing what they claimed they did. Which might be precisely what they did.
But the Chinese team would have to be saints to not have any reaction, and might have done things to deliberately pi$$ off the western teams whenever they could. Be it rubbing it in a little when they rank higher than people who have been particularly annoying, or even going as far as to engage in a little gamesmanship of their own in retaliation.
It is a disappointing development no matter what the cause, as instead of building friendship and trust, this would have only served to entrenched the hostility and negative impressions they would have had about each other.
The western snipers still don't respect the Chinese teams and think they are not really better and somehow cheated, whereas the Chinese team would believe even more firmly that the west looks down on them and belittles their achievements and cannot accept Chinese not sucking at everything.
This is not a health impression for the common troopers to hold, as it will likely spread amongst the rank and file pretty quickly on all sides, and some of these grunts and low level officers who will be hearing all this first hand could easily be the generals and commanders of the future.
I served in the Army Corps of Engineer stationed in Ft. Rucker, AL during the mid 1990s. I am sure most troops would not pay too much attention about some simple sniper world cup finals score. Every officers and NCO's are way to busy with their day to day tasks at hand to hold a grudge on such things. With that said congrats to all the participants and winners.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Sounds like they're just upset because there won't be any judges to complain to in a war. But then again they wouldn't have that chance to complain...
Are we surprised? Sounds like it's a very testosterone filled environment.
Are we surprised? Sounds like it's a very testosterone filled environment.
vesicles
Colonel
Complaining is so common in any kind of sports competition. When was the last you did NOT hear about players and coaches on the losing team NOT complaining about things "unfair", especially officiating, happening in a game? Most times after a game, players and coaches on the losing team would begin their interview by congratulating the winner with one/two sentences, and then delicate the remaining time complaining about poor officiating, dirty plays by the opposing team, etc... And then explain their own losing by saying that "it's themselves not performing to their best, NOT their opposing team being better". This is so commonly done in any professional sports competition. This is not a case of the entire world vs. the Chinese, but simply two competing teams vs each other. Let's not put everything under the microscope...
Exactly. I believe that this started off as sports complaints and gradually evolved to the national level in the minds of some people.
airsuperiority
Captain
Psychology： rationalization
For some reason, seems like some of these participants aren't any better than online gamers in COD or Dota. If this were CS, they probably would've kicked the Chinese team..
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MwRYum
Major
That's because they couldn't believe the Chinese could go from crap to cream in just so short time, and without foreign aide except using Remington 700 series...so the only logical reason they could come up is that Chinese rigged the match.
Y'know, if they could just rig it there's no reason to train so hard, went through in-house eliminations to be selected into the team.
In any case, it'd further reinforce the increasing Chinese believe that the only way to get acceptance is to beat the world, not dialogue.
Y'know, if they could just rig it there's no reason to train so hard, went through in-house eliminations to be selected into the team.
In any case, it'd further reinforce the increasing Chinese believe that the only way to get acceptance is to beat the world, not dialogue.
If that happens then they will probably blame their failure on "distraction" by the Chinese team.