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Blackstone

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Looks like Communist Party overlords are worried about an educated class thinking for themselves, and is attempting another round of thought control. I have faith the Apparatchik would use the State Police to coerce some professors and students into obeying orders (in public anyway), but what's the plan for those educated outside the Workers' Paradise? The Great Helmsman Jr. must save these poor wretches from the twin evils of free expression and independent thoughts!

The Party is your father, the Party is your mother...
The Party is your father, the Party is your mother...
The Party is your father, the Party is your mother...

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Three top Chinese universities have vowed to tighten "ideological" control over students and teachers, as a wider clampdown on free expression in the country intensifies.

The comments came from the Communist Party committees of Peking University, Shanghai's Fudan University, and Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, which each wrote a statement in the Communist Party theoretical journal Qiushi.

The statement from Peking University -- China's top academic institution -- condemned those with "ulterior motives" who target the ruling party.

"In recent years, some people go on the Internet and with ulterior motives add fuel to the fire... ultimately targeting the Chinese Communist Party and the socialist system," it said.

"We need to respond to this with a cool head, guide the teachers and students to strengthen political sensitivity."

Fudan University focused on ensuring it would "strengthen educational guidance" for its young teachers so they could "grasp Marx’s way of reaching his viewpoint".

The university should also "reinforce" teaching the history of the Party and the country, "and provide a deep understanding of why the West’s path of development is unsuited for China", its statement said.

The article, entitled "How to carry out good ideological work at universities and colleges under new historical conditions", appeared in Sunday's edition of Qiushi, a fortnightly publication.

China maintains a tight grip on information, with the media controlled by the government and online social networks subject to heavy censorship.

Hundreds of bloggers and journalists have since last year been rounded up in a government-backed campaign against "Internet rumours".
 

CyberMonk

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"In recent years, some people go on the Internet and with ulterior motives add fuel to the fire... ultimately targeting the Chinese Communist Party and the socialist system,"


I would add major western media and the so called western "Think Tanks" also.

BTW why's all these negative only postings on the Chinese Government by certain posters? Do they too have ulterior motives.

As we all know China is a big country with a huge population, there bound to be some events not to everybody's liking, so picking negative ones to post here is consider disrespectful to most members in this forum. Please do not think we're that naive in such a way we need you to spoon feed us negative news on China.

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Air Force Brat

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"In recent years, some people go on the Internet and with ulterior motives add fuel to the fire... ultimately targeting the Chinese Communist Party and the socialist system,"


I would add major western media and the so called western "Think Tanks" also.

BTW why's all these negative only postings on the Chinese Government by certain posters? Do they too have ulterior motives.

As we all know China is a big country with a huge population, there bound to be some events not to everybody's liking, so picking negative ones to post here is consider disrespectful to most members in this forum. Please do not think we're that naive in such a way we need you to spoon feed us negative news on China.

Thank You.

No one here has "ulterior motives", surely not, but the party will not be able to stifle people who have learned to think for themselves, and the more they repress the newly enlightened, the more obvious their brand of tyranny becomes. We in the Western World are free to speak our minds and our hearts, and we do, we do try to respect others in the process.....
 

plawolf

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No one here has "ulterior motives", surely not, but the party will not be able to stifle people who have learned to think for themselves, and the more they repress the newly enlightened, the more obvious their brand of tyranny becomes. We in the Western World are free to speak our minds and our hearts, and we do, we do try to respect others in the process.....

Maybe you want to actually learn what its like to live in modern China before regurgating the same old media manufactured BS.
 

CyberMonk

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No one here has "ulterior motives", surely not, but the party will not be able to stifle people who have learned to think for themselves, and the more they repress the newly enlightened, the more obvious their brand of tyranny becomes. We in the Western World are free to speak our minds and our hearts, and we do, we do try to respect others in the process.....


The CCP governs China. Whether it does a good job or not it will be judged by Chinese people through a duration of time. Chinese people do not just learned to think for ourselves now, we thought continuously for thousand of years and we KNOW what's good or bad for us, thank you.

As for the bold part above I don't believe you or me are qualified to judge the CCP actions based on a few policies the government lays out because many information we're not privy to. Criticizing CCP's every move by using ''western world's freedom of speech'' excuse is simply hypocritical and unproductive.
 

Equation

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How many governments do you know promotes mix marriages? :D And of course the media has to spin it as some kind of agenda by the CPC to wipe out that certain ethnicity when all along the couples made those choices on their own.

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China is offering cash rewards for interracial marriages in its troubled Muslim-majority region of Xinjiang, according to news reports, mirroring a policy now being promoted in Tibet.

President Xi Jinping has responded to ethnic unrest in Xinjiang and Tibet with a familiar strategy: putting in place suffocating security controls and promising significant investment in development and infrastructure, the moves buttressed by the continued migration of China’s majority Han people into both regions.

But Xi has also shifted policy toward a concept of “inter-ethnic fusion,” according to James Leibold, an expert on China's ethnic policies who teaches at Melbourne’s La Trobe University. That is a move away from China’s long-standing idea of “separate but equal” ethnicities and toward a more American-style concept of a melting pot — or, in Xi’s own words, the binding together of China’s ethnic groups as tightly as the seeds in a pomegranate.

As well as encouraging more Han people to come to Xinjiang, Xi has said that he wants to see more of Xinjiang’s Muslim Uighur people move to other parts of China. Now, according to Washington-based Radio Free Asia, officials want to use marriage to bind the two communities closer together.

In some Xinjiang districts, officials are piloting a scheme to offer annual cash payouts to couples who marry from Aug. 21 onward, provided one is Han Chinese and the other is a member of a minority ethnic group, RFA reported. Mixed-race couples will also enjoy privileged access to housing, medical care and education for their children, officials said.

Dilxat Raxit, a Munich-based spokesman for the World Uyghur Congress (WUC), an exiled pressure group, condemned the move. "They are using marriage as a means to achieve Beijing's political ends,” he told RFA, adding that such marriages are rare and unlikely to succeed. "The Turkic culture of the Uighurs and Han culture is different in almost every way, and Uighurs basically don't marry Han Chinese.”

Indeed, research published by the China Academy of Social Sciences in 2012 showed low and falling levels of marriage between Han and Uighur people over recent decades, reflecting both rising mutual antagonism and growing efforts by Uighurs to preserve their religion and culture in the face of the mass migration of the Han people into Xinjiang.

According to the 2000 census, only 1.05 percent of Uighur marriages were with members of another ethnic group, the lowest ratio among all of China’s 56 officially recognized ethnicities.

In 1949, when the Communist Party swept to power in China, Han Chinese made up less than 7 percent of Xinjiang’s population: today, that number stands at 40 percent. Uighurs, at 43 percent, are a minority in the region, with other, mainly Muslim ethnic groups making up the remainder.

Ethnic riots in Xinjiang’s capital, Urumqi, in 2009 left more than 200 people dead. In the wake of that violence, ordinary people from both communities swapped apartments to cement a division of the city into Han north and Uighur south, creating a situation in which many Han taxi drivers refuse to pick up Uighur passengers and folks barely venture past the city’s undeclared dividing line, residents say.

Leibold warns that Xi’s new policy — along with stronger grass-roots surveillance and efforts to prevent women from wearing veils — is only likely to spark more competition between ethnic groups and more conflict, thanks to “deep-seated racism and cultural misunderstanding.”

“What is keeping the lid on the violence now is that the two communities are largely segregated,” he said. “The ‘melting-pot’ route is going to be paved with a lot of blood in my opinion.”

In Tibet in recent weeks, officials have ordered a run of stories in newspapers promoting mixed marriages. The government has also been offering favorable treatment to such couples and their children for years.

In a report published last month celebrating such policies, the Communist Party’s research office in Tibet said mixed marriages have increased annually by double-digit percentages for five years, from 666 couples in 2008 to 4,795 couples in 2013.

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mr.bean

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You are free to indulge in any speculation including that the British planted a time bomb or virus in the system that would eventually create strife. In my mind, democracy is a messy business and we are just seeing an example rather than any conspiracy.

I was visiting hongkong a few years prior to 1997 and saw most of the television documentary END OF EMPIRE (made by Channel 4 and grenada television) on local ATV. each episode of the documentary series talked about the process of one british colonies path to independence from the british empire. this although was a british production it spared no punches and told the truth and ugliness of british colonialism and it's desperate attempt to keep it's empire despite the global tide of self governance and independence. if you could find it I really recommend this tv series, it will give you a whole new prespective of what the british have done in the years of the empire. and when Blackstone says the brits have tossed a grenade to china's lap before leaving, that's an understatement.
 

Engineer

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Your comments doesn't suggest to me that you understand the background issues leading to the current demonstration in HK.

The source of the problem is with article 45 of the Basic Law which states ""The method for selecting the Chief Executive shall be specified in the light of the actual situation in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and in accordance with the principle of gradual and orderly progress. The ultimate aim is the selection of the Chief Executive by universal suffrage upon nomination by a broadly representative nominating committee in accordance with democratic procedures." As it is commonly stated, the devil is in the details. Essentially the HK constitution guarantees universal suffrage but how quickly and the means in getting there is currently the source of contention and demonstration. The nominating body for putting a candidate unto the ballot has to be by way of the 1200 member body. In the last election, a pro democracy candidate was able to get onto the ballot box. This seems to have unnerved Beijing which has now tightened the requirement to at least a majority nomination instead of previously 20 % (from memory). As the majority of nomination body of members are Beijing aligned, this change effectively exclude any pro democratic candidates. This is a major contentious point for the pro democratic movement because the promise of universal suffrage as enshrined within the Basic Law is seen as essentially a farce. Additionally from Beijing's standpoint, the promise of universal suffrage is conditional upon the principle of being gradual and orderly and Beijing is moving it at the pace it is comfortable with but not shared by the pro democratic movement.

The current contention is strictly a tension between two opposing political system working through the issues. Please don't bring other Sino-British history into the picture as it is simply a local issue.

The Basic Law makes no guarantee of universal suffrage, but rather universal suffrage upon nomination by the committee. Furthermore, the Basic Law guarantees Beijing to always have a say in the matter. You only quoted part of Article 45. The
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Article 45

The Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall be selected by election or through consultations held locally and be appointed by the Central People's Government.

The method for selecting the Chief Executive shall be specified in the light of the actual situation in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and in accordance with the principle of gradual and orderly progress. The ultimate aim is the selection of the Chief Executive by universal suffrage upon nomination by a broadly representative nominating committee in accordance with democratic procedures.

The specific method for selecting the Chief Executive is prescribed in Annex I: "Method for the Selection of the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region".
Emphasis is added by me.

Within
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1. The Chief Executive shall be elected by a broadly representative Election Committee in accordance with this Law and appointed by the Central People's Government.
Emphasis is added by me.
 

Engineer

Major
Which brings us back to the name Occupy Central and its relation to Occupy Wall Street. The protesters want more political power to address worsening everyday issues for the average Hong Kong local including the lack of well paying jobs, the lack of affordable housing, and policies on a wide range of issues from the environment to the lack of a social safety net which all in some way relate back to big business being favored at the expense of everyone else.

It is like the plane is going down and the passengers start demanding a greater say in how the plane should be saved, while completely lacking in flying experience and knowledge of aircraft's systems. Yep, that will turn out extremely well.
 

Engineer

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No one here has "ulterior motives", surely not, but the party will not be able to stifle people who have learned to think for themselves, and the more they repress the newly enlightened...

That explained why Chinese are able to think for themselves while many in the West can't. The party promotes critical thinking of its citizens by keeping them on their toes. In contrast, people in the West are told that they have free media, who mostly ended up getting spoon fed b.s. yet complimenting on how good it smells and tastes.
 
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