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No one threatens to leave because he doesn't 'like' the news. However, as a Sino centric forum, a source that its sole purpose of existence is to dig dirt on China should not be allowed.

If there's such a reasonable rule existed, then there's no need for moderators' unbiased ruling, perhaps.
This article used sourced company names, specific events, sourced quotes from named individuals and actual events.

Refute them factually if you can, and do it reasonably and with respect.

Calling it "dirt" without factually showing where it is wrong, is simply knee jerk reaction bordering on ad hominem.

So far all we have is very general smear tactics against the source with no factual refutation other than to say, in essence, "we all know the site posting this document is anti-Chinese."

Well, clearly, we do not "all" know that.

As stated, either refute the specific article, factually and with reason, in the same manner it is presented, with sourced, named facts, dates, companies, individuals, etc. how it is not factual, or wrong...and do so respectfully, or post other news that is similarly sourced and adhering to real journalistic standards.

We moderators will remove individual articles, on either side, that do not adhere to these standards. Do not attack that moderation.

As long as that happens and posters remain courteous and respectful, such geopolitical discussions in this thread will continue.

If one or two simply refuse to do so and get personal, emotional, ideological, etc, they will be warned, and then suspended if they do not stop.

If everyone gets that way and it turns into a big food fight...the thread will be closed and the geopolitical experiment will be over...but only if it is a general problem with most posters. If a few attempt to sabotage and bring it down, it will be they who reap the results.

Carry on.
 
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CyberMonk

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Everyone knows what can a writer do on actual news and facts so let's just leave it alone.

It's up to the administration which direction they want this forum to go, no problem here.
 

Blackstone

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The Wall Street Journal has an article on another "Great Chinese Exodus." The article says, "many Chinese are leaving for cleaner air, better schools and more opportunity. But Beijing is keeping its eye on them." It highlights the many perils of rapid development and uneven distribution of opportunity, wealth, and power. Communist Party of China's achievement in pulling about 500 million people out of abject poverty, and creating around 200 million 'middle-class' consumers is without parallel in human history, but bad often comes with the good, and the WSJ highlights some of them. I suspect things will get worse before they get better.

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Even when the emperors did their utmost to keep them at home, the Chinese ventured overseas in search of knowledge, fortune and adventure. Manchu Qing rulers thought those who left must be criminals or conspirators and once forced the entire coastal population of southern China to move at least 10 miles inland.

But even that didn't put an end to wanderlust. Sailing junks ferried merchants to Manila on monsoon winds to trade silk and porcelain for silver. And in the 19th century, steamships carried armies of "coolies" (as they were then called) to the mines and plantations of the European empires.

Today, China's borders are wide open. Almost anybody who wants a passport can get one. And Chinese nationals are leaving in vast waves: Last year, more than 100 million outbound travelers crossed the frontiers.

Most are tourists who come home. But rapidly growing numbers are college students and the wealthy, and many of them stay away for good. A survey by the Shanghai research firm Hurun Report shows that 64% of China's rich—defined as those with assets of more than $1.6 million—are either emigrating or planning to.

To be sure, the departure of China's brightest and best for study and work isn't a fresh phenomenon. China's communist revolution was led, after all, by intellectuals schooled in Europe. What's new is that they are planning to leave the country in its ascendancy. More and more talented Chinese are looking at the upward trajectory of this emerging superpower and deciding, nevertheless, that they're better off elsewhere.

The decision to go is often a mix of push and pull. The elite are discovering that they can buy a comfortable lifestyle at surprisingly affordable prices in places such as California and the Australian Gold Coast, while no amount of money can purchase an escape in China from the immense problems afflicting its urban society: pollution, food safety, a broken education system. The new political era of President Xi Jinping, meanwhile, has created as much anxiety as hope.

Another aspect of this massive population outflow hasn't yet drawn much attention. Whatever their motives and wherever they go, those who depart will be shadowed by the organs of the Leninist state they've left behind. A sprawling bureaucracy—the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the State Council—exists to ensure that distance from the motherland doesn't dull their patriotism. Its goal is to safeguard loyalty to the Communist Party.

This often sets up an awkward dynamic between Chinese arrivals and the societies that take them in. While the newcomers try to fit in, Beijing makes every effort to use them in its campaign to project its political values, enhance its global image, harass its opponents and promote the use of standard Mandarin Chinese over the dialects spoken in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Politics, though, isn't the most important issue on the mind of Ms. Sun, a 34-year-old Beijing resident who's bailing out. (She requested anonymity because she doesn't want publicity to spoil her plans.) The main reason she's planning to pack up: Her 6-year-old daughter is asthmatic, and Beijing's chronic pollution irritates the girl's lungs. "Breathing freely is a basic requirement," she says. The girl also has a talent for music, art and storytelling that Ms. Sun fears China's test-driven schools won't nurture.

Recently, Ms. Sun flew to San Francisco to shop for a school for her daughter, browse for property and handle the paperwork for permanent U.S. residency. She insists that she's not leaving China forever—a sentiment expressed by many on their way out who see a foreign passport as an insurance policy in case things go badly wrong in China.

"I'm just giving my family another option," she says.

A college professor, who insisted on anonymity altogether ("Just call me an intellectual," he says), takes a darker view of China's prospects as he prepares to emigrate to the U.S., joining his two children, who both have postgraduate degrees from U.S. colleges.

Like many Chinese academics, the professor has a business or two on the side, although he hardly looks the part of an executive, unshaven and with crumpled pants riding 6 inches above his open sandals. In China, he pronounces, "Once you get rich, they arrest you."

That is an exaggeration, of course, but there is a propensity for entrepreneurs who appear on lists of the richest Chinese to end up in jail.

His real concern is that to get ahead, he's had to make compromises with his principles (he doesn't say bribes, but that is what he means). "I've been forced to prostitute myself," he says, and now he worries that it could all be snatched away. In China, a weak, corrupt legal system may sometimes work in favor of entrepreneurs while they're clawing their way up, cutting corners along the way, but it is almost always a liability once they've made it.

First-generation businessmen—the ones who powered China's economic rise—now dream of a secure retirement. That means legal safety in places like the U.S. and Canada.

The professor is also a fan of U.S. technology. One of his companies sells environmental equipment, and he's hoping that by living in America, he'll find ways to enhance his products and develop new ones—which he hopes to continue to sell in China, the biggest market. He holds up his Apple iPhone. "How many shirts do you think we Chinese have to export to buy one of these phones?" he asks.

China, he concludes, is still "a very backward country."

The flight of the rich recalls similar outflows from Hong Kong before the 1997 handover of the then-British colony to China and from Taiwan in an earlier period when its own future seemed imperiled. In those cases, businesspeople parked their families in places like Vancouver and Seattle and shuttled back and forth to Asia for business.

That is often the strategy in today's China, which has entered an uncertain transition. The economy is off the boil; property prices are sliding. Mr. Xi has amassed more power than any Chinese leader since Deng Xiaoping and is using it to crack down on corrupt officials while going after human rights lawyers, bloggers and civil society activists. That is ridding China of the kind of individual its government doesn't want but is also scaring away the creative types it needs.

Last year, the U.S. issued 6,895 visas to Chinese nationals under the EB-5 program, which allows foreigners to live in America if they invest a minimum of $500,000. South Koreans, the next largest group, got only 364 such visas. Canada this year closed down a similar program that had been swamped by Chinese demand.

Some of the wealth sluicing out of China is undoubtedly ill-gotten gains. The Chinese central bank estimates that corrupt officials may have siphoned off as much as $123 billion since the mid-1990s.

In his book "Restless Empire: China and the World Since 1750," the historian Odd Arne Westad writes that overseas Chinese "were, and are, the glue that holds China's relations with the world together, in good times and bad."

That explains why Beijing takes an intense pastoral interest in the Chinese diaspora. It has some 48 million members—about double the number of Indians living outside their country—and wherever they alight, they tend to rise to the top, be it Silicon Valley or the high-tech corridors of Southeast Asia.

Beijing makes a crucial distinction between ethnic Chinese who have acquired foreign nationality and those who remain Chinese citizens. The latter category is officially called huaqiao—sojourners. Together, they are viewed as an immensely valuable asset: the students as ambassadors for China, the scientists, engineers, researchers and others as conduits for technology and industrial know-how from the West to propel China's economic modernization.

In 1989, when the Tiananmen Square massacre triggered an outflow of traumatized students and shattered the Party's image among overseas Chinese communities, the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office kicked into high gear with a propaganda campaign to repair the damage. It proved highly successful.
China Real Time

The political scientist James Jiann Hua To, the author of "Qiaowu: Extra-Territorial Policies for the Overseas Chinese," says that the campaign "turned around the way most overseas Chinese look at China." (Read a Q&A with James Jiann Hua To.)

The effort continues. It is subtle—a hearts-and-minds campaign that works through overseas Chinese newspapers, websites (digital "New Chinatowns," in propaganda-speak), schools, youth groups and church organizations.

The results show up in "patriotic" street activities. In 2008, for instance, well-organized Chinese students guarded the Olympic torch as it went around the world ahead of the Beijing Games, attracting raucous protests from Tibetan independence activists and other hostile groups. The following year, Chinese students disrupted the Melbourne Film Festival when it screened a movie about the life of exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer, whom Beijing accuses of stirring up separatist agitation in its Xinjiang region. Similar protesters dog the footsteps around the world of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, whom Beijing also accuses of "splittist" activities.

Foreigners sometimes have a hard time understanding why Beijing expends so much effort countering threats, real or imagined, from Chinese opponents overseas, including the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement. But China's leaders are haunted by history. To an extraordinary degree, the destiny of modern China has been shaped by the Chinese who left. The overseas Chinese of Southeast Asia provided critical support for Sun Yat-sen's 1911 revolution, which toppled the Qing.

The dynamic works the other way too. When Deng needed money and expertise to unlock the entrepreneurial energies of China in the early 1980s, he first tapped the mega-rich Chinese tycoons in Hong Kong, Thailand and Malaysia, whose factories populated his Special Economic Zones.

But China's cross-border political activities are creating unease. Consider Australia—one of the most popular destinations for Chinese students, emigrants and tourists, and a country where Mandarin Chinese is now the second-most widely spoken language after English.

"Chinese Australians are being lectured, monitored, organized and policed in Australia on instruction from Beijing as never before," wrote John Fitzgerald of Swinburne University of Technology, one of the country's foremost China experts, in an article published by the Asan Forum, a South Korean think tank.

In the U.S., a vigorous debate has broken out in academic circles about the role on American campuses of Confucius Institutes, which are sponsored by the Chinese government and offer Mandarin-language classes, along with rosy cultural views of China. Critics say these institutes threaten academic independence; supporters say they offer valuable language training that would not otherwise be available. In June, the American Association of University Professors stepped into the controversy and recommended that universities "cease their involvement" with the institutes unless they can gain "unilateral control" over them.

China must be exceedingly careful not to leave too many fingerprints on its political activities offshore. For a start, it has an official policy of noninterference in the internal affairs of other countries. But it also puts established overseas Chinese communities at risk by raising the issue of their national loyalties. That is particularly true in Southeast Asia, where the Chinese of a previous era were often viewed with suspicion as a communist fifth column.

Still, the sheer volume of China's outbound travel these days, and its massive economic impact, gives it new leverage. In the global market for high-end real estate, Chinese buying has become a key driver of prices. According to the U.S. National Association of Realtors, Chinese buyers snapped up homes worth $22 billion in the year ending in March.

Australia called a parliamentary inquiry to find out whether local households were being priced out of the market by Chinese money. (The conclusion: not yet.)

Without fee-paying Chinese students, many colleges in the postrecession Western world simply wouldn't be able to pay the bills. Chinese students are by far the largest group of foreign students on U.S. campuses, and their numbers jumped 21% last year from the year before—to 235,597, according to the Institute of International Education. Their numbers are increasing at a similar pace in Australia. In England, there are now almost as many Chinese students as British ones studying full-time for postgraduate master's degrees.

Tourism is booming again thanks to China. The Chinese have overtaken Americans to become the world's biggest tourist spenders—and they're rapidly moving upmarket. Mei Zhang, the founder of Beijing's high-end travel operator WildChina, offers family holidays to destinations such as Kenya, Patagonia and Alaska at $10,000 per head. Chinese are now the third-largest group of nationals landing in Antarctica, where tourists zip around the ice floes in Zodiac inflatables to watch penguins.

The international hotel industry is increasingly tailoring its service to Chinese tastes. Among the required extras these days: teapots and toothbrushes. Russell Brice, the founder of the expedition firm Himalayan Experience, says that he packs duck and chicken feet—Chinese delicacies—along with the climbing gear for his Chinese clients. "A few little things like that make it special," he says.

And the outflow has only just begun. The Hong Kong-based brokerage firm CLSA forecasts that departures from China will double to 200 million by 2020.

In education, the next big wave coming from China is high schoolers. Rich parents are opting out of an education system that prepares children to take high-stakes tests for college entrance but neglects the creative side. Besides, once they've been through the mill, the students have a tendency to kick back when they get to college.

Xie Li, a manager at a Beijing telecommunications company, says that she tried to push her 16-year-old son to go to high school overseas, but he couldn't bear to leave home so early. He's a star pupil at the middle school attached to Beijing Normal University, which First Lady Michelle Obama visited recently.

Still, the boy is being groomed for college overseas and an international life. At 13, his parents packed him off to spend six weeks with an American family in Virginia. They've taken family breaks in exotic places like Tanzania. And now, to his mother's delight, he's set a goal for himself to study chemistry at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Ms. Xie recognizes that he might never come back but says, "His heart will always be with his family."

The Chinese government has no desire to slow the flow of students. Its attitude is simple: Why not have the Americans or Europeans train our brightest minds if they want to? President Xi's own daughter went to Harvard.

As always with China, the numbers awe. In his memoirs, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, recalls a meeting between President Jimmy Carter and Deng. Human rights were on Mr. Carter's agenda, and he started needling the Chinese leader about Beijing's tight emigration policies. "Fine. We'll let them go," Deng snapped. "Are you prepared to accept 10 million?"

Not even Deng could have imagined the human torrent his "open door" reforms would eventually unleash. Try 100 million—and counting.
 

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The Wall Street Journal has an article on another "Great Chinese Exodus." The article says, "many Chinese are leaving for cleaner air, better schools and more opportunity. But Beijing is keeping its eye on them." It highlights the many perils of rapid development and uneven distribution of opportunity, wealth, and power. Communist Party of China's achievement in pulling about 500 million people out of abject poverty, and creating around 200 million 'middle-class' consumers is without parallel in human history, but bad often comes with the good, and the WSJ highlights some of them. I suspect things will get worse before they get better.

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Yeah I read it, just another over exaggeration article trying to demise the Chinese government. Why didn't the article mention about the great number of Taiwan youths are going to the mainland to find jobs and how come the WSJ don't criticize the inept Taiwan government in dealing with such unemployment?
 
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Blackstone

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Yeah I read it, just another over exaggeration article trying to demise the Chinese government.
You're probably mature enough to understand some degree of sensationalism goes hand in hand with selling newspapers. That's a truism in all corners of the world. The essence of the piece is accurate enough, and reasonable people could agree on the notion that truth is generally a good defense.

Why didn't the article mention about the great number of Taiwan youths are going to the mainland to find jobs and how come the WSJ don't criticize the inept Taiwan government in dealing with such unemployment?
Eh... maybe it's because the article has nothing whatsoever to do with Taiwan...?
 

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You're probably mature enough to understand some degree of sensationalism goes hand in hand with selling newspapers. That's a truism in all corners of the world. The essence of the piece is accurate enough, and reasonable people could agree on the notion that truth is generally a good defense.

Reasonable people don't need sensationalism they just need the facts on the report. Sensationalism are for drama queens and gullible readers.

Eh... maybe it's because the article has nothing whatsoever to do with Taiwan...?

Aren't they Chinese too? How come no or hardly any critical news about the Taiwanese government? Shouldn't they be subjected to the same criticism as well as the PRC government? That's my point.
 

Blackstone

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Here's a well-written description of Communist Party's "quaowu," which roughly means "extra-territorial policies for overseas Chinese" nationals. The article gives a good description of some Communist governmental aims and practices to advance Chinese national interests, and it also points out Communist officials are careful not to interfere with the Chinese diaspora of different nationalities. At lease not visibly anyway.

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One of the greatest movements of people in history is under way: travel out of China by vast numbers of students, business executives and tourists. More than 100 million crossed the border last year.

Everywhere they go, they will be shadowed by the Leninist state they leave behind. The Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the State Council is in charge of ensuring their loyalty to China and the Communist Party. Their activities are known as qiaowu.

James Jiann Hua To, a New Zealand political scientist, is a foremost authority on China’s efforts to shepherd its overseas Chinese – the “thousand grains of sand.” He is the author of “Qiaowu: Extra-Territorial Policies for the Overseas Chinese.” China Real Time’s Andrew Browne spoke with him by email. Edited excerpts:

What’s the definition of qiaowu?

The purpose of qiaowu is to rally support for Beijing amongst ethnic Chinese outside of China through various propaganda and thought-management techniques. For the vast majority of the 48 million overseas Chinese around the world, many will be oblivious to qiaowu and its activity. The main target groups are those who are open to and even welcome receiving qiaowu and closer links to China and its foreign service, such as newer migrants or PRC students abroad.

How is qiaowu playing out amid the enormous increase in Chinese outbound tourism, emigration and study?

Brill

Firstly, a clear distinction must be made between Chinese nationals going and living overseas, and ethnic Chinese overseas. Beijing is very careful to ensure that it is not seen as interfering in foreign matters by way of a fifth column. However, because qiaowu work is so broad in scope, all ethnic Chinese are potential subjects of interest, and the distinction becomes quite blurred.

The PRC has the capability to monitor overseas Chinese affairs throughout the world – in particular matters concerning anti-Chinese sentiment or natural disaster. Moreover, Beijing has publicly stated it is prepared to go “all out” to protect overseas Chinese from racism, harassment and damage to property.

How does China seek to influence Chinese-language media and cultural activities abroad?

For decades, the CCP has used newspapers, radio, television and other media sources to influence the perceptions and behaviors of overseas Chinese. Beijing’s main objective is to encourage reunification, stimulate nationalist pride and to oppose anti-[Chinese Communist Party] movements. However, Beijing is very careful not to appear as if it is interfering.

While mostly successful with new migrants and Chinese students abroad who may already have pro-Beijing sentiments, this kind of work has little or no influence on well-established ethnic Chinese already grounded with foreign values. However, Beijing actively seeks to guide the way in which traditional festivals are celebrated by offering free decorations and cultural resources, stoking ancestral sentimentality and showcasing China’s rise on the international scene.

Could this collide with democratic values in host societies like the U.S., Australia and New Zealand?

With Beijing’s increased influence in Chinese cultural and media circles, alternative interpretations of ‘Chineseness’ find themselves sidelined. In countries where freedom of speech and independent thought are highly valued, qiaowu has worked in a way such that overseas Chinese themselves are self-censoring to maintain warm relations with Beijing so as not to jeopardize access to its resources and economic opportunities.

Is the growing debate over Confucius Institutes a sign of things to come?

The Confucius Institute program is China’s foremost public diplomacy and cultural outreach effort. Its long-term objective is to gather a wide spectrum of support for China to influence the development of host-country foreign policy so it is favorable to Beijing. Institutes actively promote putonghua Mandarin, not other dialects such as Cantonese, simplified characters and pinyin pronunciation.

A CCP-derived interpretation of what it means to be Chinese is the sign of things to come for overseas Chinese communities, unless they actively work to preserve their uniqueness.

How will China’s mission to protect Chinese nationals abroad influence its global security posture?

As Chinese investment abroad grows, Beijing might consider naval diplomacy or military protection to oversee assets under overseas Chinese control, or intervene when overseas Chinese are in trouble. For example, it has advocated dispatching PRC police officers to assist investigations following attacks on overseas Chinese.

China desires acceptance in the international community and refrains from anything that might be perceived as aggressive behavior. For example, it has been hesitant to send in uniformed assistance; it has chartered commercial airplanes instead of sending military aircraft; and military vessels are dispatched as goodwill naval visits.

Will the issue of Chinese national loyalties in Southeast Asia resurface?

In the 1980s the Singapore government sought to disempower the ethnic Chinese elite and their links with China by preserving only the politically inoffensive cultural aspects of various overseas Chinese clan associations. In the early 1990s, Lee Kuan Yew expressed his fear of potential racial discord should overseas Chinese respond to Beijing’s line of a common Chinese culture.

While support for Beijing is most evident amongst new migrant groups and PRC students studying abroad, most ethnic Chinese who have resided in their host countries (many for generations) have little inclination to support Beijing. The problem is that locals may not be able to distinguish between these very different groups, and hence all ethnic Chinese become tarred with the same brush.

There have been several cases of industrial espionage in the U.S. involving Chinese nationals. Is this part of qiaowu policy?

While qiaowu includes intelligence gathering on overseas Chinese and their activities, the boundaries between the qiaowu administration and the state become blurred when mobilizing overseas Chinese for national interests that go beyond its mandate. In these cases the qiaowu administration prefers to leave aggressive and coercive practices for other agencies to handle.

As China’s ‘Thousand Grains of Sand,’ PRC nationals and those of Chinese descent abroad are prompted to provide information or technology for China’s development in the form of decentralized micro-espionage. Targets are often unaware that they are the subject of such manipulation. Many respond positively and voluntarily by appealing to their ethnic pride and sympathies in “helping the motherland advance.”
 

Equation

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Here's a well-written description of Communist Party's "quaowu," which roughly means "extra-territorial policies for overseas Chinese" nationals. The article gives a good description of some Communist governmental aims and practices to advance Chinese national interests, and it also points out Communist officials are careful not to interfere with the Chinese diaspora of different nationalities. At lease not visibly anyway.

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What does that has to do with the lack of western media reporting on Taiwanese government? You're fishing my friend.:p
 

Blackstone

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What does that has to do with the lack of western media reporting on Taiwanese government? You're fishing my friend.:p

What do you mean, O lover of great beauty? I posted a different article on a different subject; we simply disagree on the previous one, and I rather not argue in circles with posters I like.
 

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What do you mean, O lover of great beauty? I posted a different article on a different subject; we simply disagree on the previous one, and I rather not argue in circles with posters I like.

But you didn't say so, how was I suppose to know? You just posted something irrelevant as to avoid answering my question when the subject is still fresh.
 
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