China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

00CuriousObserver

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As a piece of supporting rumour (and I am really just mentioning this as support), a couple days ago 约克 said that production for the J-16 has already stopped, and only J-16Ds are still in production.

https:// youtu.be/C7HqYH2VJRw?t=4214

The video is members-only right now. They'll upload that part publicly in a couple of days.
 
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00CuriousObserver said:
As a piece of supporting rumour (and I am really just mentioning this as support), a couple days ago 约克 said that production for the J-16 has already stopped, and only J-16Ds are still in production.

https:// youtu.be/C7HqYH2VJRw?t=4214

The video is members-only right now. They'll upload that part publicly in a couple of days.
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J-16D production/service has seemingly been on a relatively slow/light side since introduction.

If some ceased J-16 production slots have been converted to J-16D, if anything that would probably be more desirable to build up a required force for heavy land based tactical jammers rather than putting all J-16 production slots to J-35 family.
 
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So far scrmble.nl suggests photo evidence for just one brigade switching to j16 in 2025. But i guess there is high likelihood more switched, but we simply didn't get photos yet.

That said, j16 going out of production certainly makes sense if j35 is ready and if j20a is as multirole as suggested.

The only thing a bit strange for me is j35 production ramping up so quickly. Usually its like 4, 8, 16, 30 etc in four years. Even if it's double that pace we still should not be over 30 something for 2026.

Flanker production before j35 started was probably well upward of 50, with 16, 15 and D models included.
 
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Totoro said:
So far scrmble.nl suggests photo evidence for just one brigade switching to j16 in 2025. But i guess there is high likelihood more switched, but we simply didn't get photos yet.

That said, j16 going out of production certainly makes sense if j35 is ready and if j20a is as multirole as suggested.

The only thing a bit strange for me is j35 production ramping up so quickly. Usually its like 4, 8, 16, 30 etc in four years. Even if it's double that pace we still should not be over 30 something for 2026.

Flanker production before j35 started was probably well upward of 50, with 16, 15 and D models included.
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PLAN needs the J-35 fast. That and perhaps rumors of export are real.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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00CuriousObserver said:
As a piece of supporting rumour (and I am really just mentioning this as support), a couple days ago 约克 said that production for the J-16 has already stopped, and only J-16Ds are still in production.

https:// youtu.be/C7HqYH2VJRw?t=4214

The video is members-only right now. They'll upload that part publicly in a couple of days.
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China could be producing a lot more naval J-15 as well, since they need more of them now.

If the DOD report assessment that China wants get to 9 carriers by 2035, then they need to rapidly build up multiple carrier air wings now!
 
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00CuriousObserver said:
As a piece of supporting rumour (and I am really just mentioning this as support), a couple days ago 约克 said that production for the J-16 has already stopped, and only J-16Ds are still in production.

https:// youtu.be/C7HqYH2VJRw?t=4214

The video is members-only right now. They'll upload that part publicly in a couple of days.
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End of the Flanker Era then? At most a few MLU upgrades but no more productions?
 
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tamsen_ikard

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It's not, it's just some fanboy's dream and the inability of the people who wrote the CMPR.
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I dont think even fanboys ever made claims that China can get to 9 carriers by 2035. This came out of the blue in the DOD report.

Which kinda makes it credible since there is no trail of fans being over optimistic about China's carrier production plans like this.

DOD report could have intelligence that pla fans do not have.
 
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