China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

[plawolf]

J16, like almost all flankers, don’t carry drop tanks since the airframe itself has huge fuel reserves, so that load-out will have zero impact on its fuel levels. Even with 20 PL15s, the J16 can probably carry heavier real combat loads for strike missions. But agility is less of a concern since the PL15 out-sticks almost all currently deployed opposing missiles.

The biggest problem with such a silly number of AAMs would be the total disregard for pods that would be essential for modern near-peer AA combat operations.

The only scenario where full AAM loads might be justified is in defensive counter mass cruise missile spam interdiction missions, which is not actually that far fetched of a scenario for J16s. Although I think it’s normal full load out of a dozen AAMs would be more than sufficient.

 

[Blitzo]

i think this one is just as good and bears better credibility (from 2021zhuhai)

It's a CGI from gaoshan done years ago.

It is also fan made and no the credibility isn't any better lol.


My advice to people is if something looks too good, then start to doubt if it's real.

 

[Totoro]

What indications are there that white radomes mean new radar arrays for flankers?

And which units operating j11b have been seen with with new radomes?

 

[Deino]

What indications are there that white radomes mean new radar arrays for flankers?

And which units operating j11b have been seen with with new radomes?

As it seems within the PLAAF:

1st - now converted to J-20
95th (ETC)
89th (NTC) … most likely from 1st
19th (CTC)

… and PLAN:

8th/22nd (not entirely sure)

 

[Totoro]

5 units then? Comprising roughly half of all j11b? In a span of some 4 years?

 

[Deino]

5 units then? Comprising roughly half of all j11b? In a span of some 4 years?

No, the 1st only flew it briefly and transferred them to the 89th (IMO!) when it converted to J-20

 

[Jingle Bells]

i think this one is just as good and bears better credibility (from 2021zhuhai)

I've always had a problem with that particular CGI. The 100kg PGM shown there are laser guided, I believe. Yet the J16 is carrying no targeting pod. This is rather strange.

 

[Blitzo]

I've always had a problem with that particular CGI. The 100kg PGM shown there are laser guided, I believe. Yet the J16 is carrying no targeting pod. This is rather strange.

Those PGMs are 100kg LS-6s which have primary satellite guidance, supplemented by some sort of nose guidance which was thought to possibly be ImIR at the time it was first unveiled.

I'm not sure it was ever confirmed if it was ImIR or laser guidance on the nose.

 

[Flanker enjoyer]

Is there any way tell the difference between the different PL-12/SD-10 variants?

 

[caohailiang]

No, the 1st only flew it briefly and transferred them to the 89th (IMO!) when it converted to J-20

1st - now converted to J-20
95th (ETC)
89th (NTC) … most likely from 1st
19th (CTC)

… and PLAN:

8th/22nd (not entirely sure)

The MLU is progressing slowly, isnt it? I always thought it is a highly cost effective way to increase combat power, which should be carried out with some speed