China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

[siegecrossbow]

Sounds like he had a wingman against the two "opfor" aircraft as he mentions "our two aircraft".

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Though it's still possible that this pilot was able to gain a solution on the two "opfor" aircraft at the same time by virtue of good maneuvering between him and his wingman; but in the tactical BFM scenario it would be considered a 2 v 2.



The question is more whether the two opfor aircraft could be the F-35s described in the document from before (two J-16s and two "opfor" could conceivably be F-35s), or alternatively if Yankee or others are strongly suggesting they are F-22s then that of course would be more notable.

No. The pilots in this incident were from Chongqing and the encounter happened in 2024 while the previous incident happened in 2023 and 杜凤瑞大队 were responsible.

 

[Blitzo]

No. The pilots in this incident were from Chongqing and the encounter happened in 2024 while the previous incident happened in 2023 and 杜凤瑞大队 were responsible.

Right, so at least we can fairly confident say it is different events.

In which case it's a matter of how to interpret the cryptic language about the identity of the opfor aircraft from this event then.


Edit: I'd also add that I would caution people from drawing too many conclusions from a set (even a number) of interactions where PLA aircraft seem to come out "ahead". I suspect these sort of close encounters between PLA and US aircraft are far more common than we think, and we don't know what the true outcome rate for them are like, and the information we have of a few encounters are samples that may not be practically representative.