China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

[kriss]

This doesn’t even make any sense. The Chinese definition for fighter generation, or at least the one before 2020, is one level below that of the US one so that Chinese 4th gen is the same as US fifth gen. For his argument to work China has to claim that the J20 is a 3.5th gen fighter, which has not happened ever.

Fighter generation used to be pretty universal that everyone except russian agrees that modern fighter jets like Su-27,F-15, and eurofighter are third gen and stealth fighter being fourth gen. Back then Lockheed Martin's promotion slogan for F-22 was still something like "FOURTH gen with FOUR S". But after T-50 appeared (russian 5th gen) these glorified salesmen just couldn't stand the word game of being one gen behind so they came with the good idea of reinventing fighter generation classification and brain fucking everyone.

 

[Acerpacer]

Best Russian Flanker Su35
Best Sino Flanker J16

Can someone do a quick comparison of their relative performance vis a vis Engines, Avionics, Radar, Manouverability and weapons fit.

In my mind the J16 is probably better in all aspects except the manoverability?

 

[Deino]

Best Russian Flanker Su35
Best Sino Flanker J16

Can someone do a quick comparison of their relative performance vis a vis Engines, Avionics, Radar, Manouverability and weapons fit.

In my mind the J16 is probably better in all aspects except the manoverability?

What about doing a bit homework on your own and then ask specific questions!?

In fact almost everything you need can be found, but just to come and ask others is a bit lazy. Isn't it?

 

[test1979]

I now believe that Australian pilots really need psychological counseling
CCTV released a video of a J-16 intercepting an Australian P-8A and firing chaff at it

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[Wrought]

What about doing a bit homework on your own and then ask specific questions!?

In fact almost everything you need can be found, but just to come and ask others is a bit lazy. Isn't it?

You should've told him to buy your book

 

[FirebirdFan]

Recently ordered a few myself

Any chance you do a J-10 book? (wrong thread I know) @Deino

 

[FirebirdFan]

Carrying two PL-17 missiles. The engines look like AL-31.
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I think you will be warned again, your analysis is quite off. This is a J-16 which only uses WS-10 engine, missiles appear to be PS on as well if I'm not mistaken and I think this has been posted before.

 

[johncliu88]

I think you will be warned again, your analysis is quite off. This is a J-16 which only uses WS-10 engine, missiles appear to be PS on as well if I'm not mistaken and I think this has been posted before.

Sorry, I did not know it was posted before. I will delete it.

 

[FirebirdFan]

Sorry, I did not know it was posted before. I will delete it.

I suggest reading sites like

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So, you can avoid these mistakes in the future

 

[Deino]

Seems as if @

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on Weibo got aware of an early "concept" collage to check the profile during "work in progress" while they were prepared by Ugo Crisponi (@AVIATIONGRAPHIC)

Maybe someone can tell him if he get's in contact with me, I can send him the final version with the finished profiles - the J-15B for example & Su-35 - or even the book!



Here's the real one in "xs":