China Flanker Thread II

[Hendrik_2000]

reality is that China is still rely on russia,such aerodynamic analysis, and technical assisstant.

With the proliferation of cheap Computational Fluid Dynamic and FE Stress Analysis program and CAE and 3 D CAD, I doubt that is the case. These days you can get all kind of Software that used to cost million and run on the computer the size of a room, for next to nothing

Maybe 20 years ago!

 

[pla101prc]

reality is that China is still rely on russia,such aerodynamic analysis, and technical assisstant.

that assertion is outdated by a long stretch

 

[challenge]

everyone wanted good news,not bad news.
there are a lot area,particular the key technology still has to rely on the russian,(or other countries such as ukraine,....etc)
China ,it's true make tremedous progress,in reality is not bastion of high tech ,everyone wanted to believe.

 

[Lion]

everyone wanted good news,not bad news.
there are a lot area,particular the key technology still has to rely on the russian,(or other countries such as ukraine,....etc)
China ,it's true make tremedous progress,in reality is not bastion of high tech ,everyone wanted to believe.

Wrong. Everyone want true news. Back yr words with concrete facts. Some of yr post is from some crapy sources which is very unconvincing.

The very fact, there is less and less military tech cooperation between China and Russia more or less tells us the stagnant of Russia military tech.

Russian PAF-KA project invitation China was rejected as China decide to go on its own. China definitely will not let such golden opportunity slip if Russian really still have an edge over China..

The Russian even need to buy LHD from France. In Soviet times, such thing is impossible thing to happen.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

everyone wanted good news,not bad news.
there are a lot area,particular the key technology still has to rely on the russian,(or other countries such as ukraine,....etc)
China ,it's true make tremedous progress,in reality is not bastion of high tech ,everyone wanted to believe.

Why you need to go to Russia or Ukraine? When the Soviet Union implode thousand of Engineers loose their job and many found employment in China

You better off hiring them, combined this with expansion of higher education plus industrial joint venture I don't see the need to go to Russia

 

[challenge]

designing and producing aircraft.whether passenger or military fighter plane is very ,very complex, require multiply technical input,and some area needed external assistant, news of joint euro-sino helocopter project, sino-ukraine transport aircraft project,EU-China aggreement to assembly airbus in tianjin...etc.
even today China still unable to built a very large aircraft such as 747 or AN-124.( attempt to acquire the liscense right to built AN-124 was rejected by ukraine).
bigger question is next 10 years.

 

[Lion]

designing and producing aircraft.whether passenger or military fighter plane is very ,very complex, require multiply technical input,and some area needed external assistant, news of joint euro-sino helocopter project, sino-ukraine transport aircraft project,EU-China aggreement to assembly airbus in tianjin...etc.
even today China still unable to built a very large aircraft such as 747 or AN-124.( attempt to acquire the liscense right to built AN-124 was rejected by ukraine).
bigger question is next 10 years.

Ain't China going to launch their new prototype of Y-20 in 2012? And Comac medium size passeger aircraft soon?

Its not able not having the technology by now. Its rather of developing it too late. Right now the military and civilian are already trying to rectify the shortcoming.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

designing and producing aircraft.whether passenger or military fighter plane is very ,very complex, require multiply technical input,and some area needed external assistant, news of joint euro-sino helocopter project, sino-ukraine transport aircraft project,EU-China aggreement to assembly airbus in tianjin...etc.
even today China still unable to built a very large aircraft such as 747 or AN-124.( attempt to acquire the liscense right to built AN-124 was rejected by ukraine).
bigger question is next 10 years.

More like China has not willing to make financial commitment to back up such venture until now. Has nothing to do with technical prowess. Airbus was subsidized by EU until recently and consistenly loosing money.

don't forget that from 1980 up to 1994 the defense budget was pegged to 20 billion dollar because money is needed elsewhere.

Soviet Union spend up to 40% of Goverment expenditure for defense but at the same time neglected their light industry that contribute to the implosion of Sviet Union!

 

[vesicles]

The current Chinese AF has a mix of domestic and foreign designs. Even if China still needs technical assistance, it is crazy to think that China PLANS its entire future fighter fleet based on foreign designs. Nowadays, China is too proud to do that. One of the main goals of China's national defense is to sever the foreign dependence. That's why China tries so hard on WS-10, J-10, WZ-10 and ZTZ99. Even if China still needs some help in reality, China will certainly NOT PLAN its future AF based on foreign designs. It is against the trend of China's nation defense and the known strategic view of China's military.

 

[plawolf]

This is so typical of the completely baseless trash that challenge gets from dubius/unreliable sources or stuff downright invented by challenge himself. Why anyone still pays any attention to his ramblings is beyond me.