China Flanker Thread II

[noone536]

that explains a lot thanks

 

[Deino]

Once again some very nice CG's from "Gaoshan" (I hope I'm correct !) ...


Besides that .... since China is (IMO) modt likely not developing a TVC-version of the WS-10A (at least) for the J-11B ... is there a chance that the J-11B will be superseded by an improved canard-equipped J-11C similar to the Su-27M originally without TVC-engines.

It could share the same fuselage imptrovements, avionics and also flight control system to its carrier-borne brother ... and still retain the longer sting and single fron wheel ... ?

Just an idea ... what do You think

Deino

 

[challenge]

601所j-11大改型号揭密(j-15到j-25)


601所在引进su-27技术进行反演设计中,重视自主创新,发展了一系列先进型号,成为中国航空工业引进,消化,再创新的又一典范机型,具体情况如下:


1):j-11b:su-27的全国产化型;

2):j-11bs:j-11b的双座战斗轰炸型;

3):j-15:j-11b的舰载型,类似于su-33;

4):j-16:类似于su-34的远程双座歼击轰炸机;

5):j-17:类似于su-33ub的舰载双座歼击轰炸/教练机;

6):j-18:类似于su-35的j-11b战斗增强型;

7):j-19:j-18改棱型机头,改v型垂尾的隐形修形型机;

8):j-21:j-11b的隐形高端改型,外形类似于f-22;

9):j-22:j-21的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

10):j-23:j-21的隐形无尾布局终级大改型;

11):j-24:j-23的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

12):j-25:j-23的隐形舰载型;

 

[Deino]

Again ... Please give us a LINK and a short summary or translation.

Otherwise - and even with a Bing- or Google-translation - it looks again like BS !

Deino

 

[Hyperwarp]

601所j-11大改型号揭密(j-15到j-25)


601所在引进su-27技术进行反演设计中,重视自主创新,发展了一系列先进型号,成为中国航空工业引进,消化,再创新的又一典范机型,具体情况如下:


1):j-11b:su-27的全国产化型;

2):j-11bs:j-11b的双座战斗轰炸型;

3):j-15:j-11b的舰载型,类似于su-33;

4):j-16:类似于su-34的远程双座歼击轰炸机;

5):j-17:类似于su-33ub的舰载双座歼击轰炸/教练机;

6):j-18:类似于su-35的j-11b战斗增强型;

7):j-19:j-18改棱型机头,改v型垂尾的隐形修形型机;

8):j-21:j-11b的隐形高端改型,外形类似于f-22;

9):j-22:j-21的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

10):j-23:j-21的隐形无尾布局终级大改型;

11):j-24:j-23的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

12):j-25:j-23的隐形舰载型;

Huh? Could you be kind in enough to give us a summary in English?

 

[challenge]

Huh? Could you be kind in enough to give us a summary in English?

J-11B= Chinese version of SU-27SK
J-11BS= two seater version of J-11B
J-15= Chinese version of russia SU-33
J-16= chinese version of russia SU-34
J-17= chinese version of russia SU-34ub
j-18= sU-35
j-19= improve version of J-18,using V shape tail fin (think of F-18)incorporate stealth design.
J-21=stealth vsersion of J-11B, external will resemble F-22
J-23= further development of J-21,incorporate tailess design, like B-2
J-24= 2 seat version of J-22

J-25= naval vsersion of J-23

likely it may just a proposal.

 

[noone536]

just basically all chinese aircraft are copy of russians?

 

[HKSDU]

J-11B= Chinese version of SU-27SK
J-11BS= two seater version of J-11B
J-15= Chinese version of russia SU-33
J-16= chinese version of russia SU-34
J-17= chinese version of russia SU-34ub
j-18= sU-35
j-19= improve version of J-18,using V shape tail fin (think of F-18)incorporate stealth design.
J-21=stealth vsersion of J-11B, external will resemble F-22
J-23= further development of J-21,incorporate tailess design, like B-2
J-24= 2 seat version of J-22

J-25= naval vsersion of J-23

likely it may just a proposal.

sounds like fanboy information to me. or otherwise complete BS.

 

[A.Man]

601所j-11大改型号揭密(j-15到j-25)


601所在引进su-27技术进行反演设计中,重视自主创新,发展了一系列先进型号,成为中国航空工业引进,消化,再创新的又一典范机型,具体情况如下:


1):j-11b:su-27的全国产化型;

2):j-11bs:j-11b的双座战斗轰炸型;

3):j-15:j-11b的舰载型,类似于su-33;

4):j-16:类似于su-34的远程双座歼击轰炸机;

5):j-17:类似于su-33ub的舰载双座歼击轰炸/教练机;

6):j-18:类似于su-35的j-11b战斗增强型;

7):j-19:j-18改棱型机头,改v型垂尾的隐形修形型机;

8):j-21:j-11b的隐形高端改型,外形类似于f-22;

9):j-22:j-21的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

10):j-23:j-21的隐形无尾布局终级大改型;

11):j-24:j-23的隐形双座歼击轰炸型;

12):j-25:j-23的隐形舰载型;

Does China Really Need All The Russian Junks?

China is making better fighters then Russians.

 

[challenge]

reality is that China is still rely on russia,such aerodynamic analysis, and technical assisstant.