My friend you are way to brainwashed in Western media. Go research some before making a hard statement. J-11 copy of Su-27, with Russia not liking it? J-11 is license built given by the Russians itself, its not illegal copy or anything. J-11B a modernized variant. China hasn't violated the agreement. Just cause China modernized the original J-11 doesn't mean they gonna sell it nor have they did and announced it as an export item. Russia not willing to sell China fighters? China hasn't approached Russia for fighters except Su-33 which was awhile ago. The Russians are being sour cause China is purchasing less these days from Russia. Israel modernizes their F-15 does that mean its illegal copy and they are gonna export them too?ff
And it's simply not feasable with the current technology. If it was, then you wouldn't see the US building an all new class of carriers with manned aircraft and an all new generation of manned fighters.
And I keep hearing that China has all this technology. Where is it? They seem to copy more weapons platforms then anything else. Look at the situation they are in with the Russians. Russia does not like selling aircraft to China anymore because of how China buys a couple then reverse engineers them. Look at the J-11, a copy of the Su-27.
Now let's get back on topic!
All my words in last post are plain wrong eh? I wrote J-11 not A or B the original designation. Su-27 license designation was J-11 not J-11A. A was to differentiate by the Chinese to distinguish the original ones manufactured. The person post I was referring to says J-11 copy of Su-27 and how Russia didn't like it. Which was wrong cause J-11 is license designation of Su-27. I have a problem when people use copy button without knowing the actual story behind it. China acquired a license to produce 200 J-11, China hasn't gone over the limit of 200. So you expect China to produce all 200 Su-27 knowing that its obsolete avionics, lack of ground capabilities? What is it illegal copy? Cause the Russia just says so, despite the contract of agreement. You say J-11B isn't license you mean it isn't using the old Russian avionics and weapons? Or it uses new materials on its airframe? Violation of agreement please explain. If by that then Israel is illegal using the F-15 that America sold them then. Other military maybe so, but license production basically means instead of being produced in Russia its produced domestically with cap limit of 200 in China.
moving your post to where it belongs.:roll:
Yeah and there are several articles from Russia about how China "illegally stole" the aircraft.
Next thing your going to tell me is that the Soviet Union never copied the Space Shuttle.
To hit on another one of your points, the F-15 has always been sold to Israel through Boeing Corp, or given by the United States government. Israel didn't just get a few and start building their own. They actually took some money and paid McDonnell Douglas/ Boeing to build the aircraft for them. Do some research on the F-15, you might learn something.
But I digress, lets get back on topic
They never did copy the Space Shuttle, as the Buran is a totally different beast. For one, the Buran is mounted on an actual rocket, not a fuel tank.
Wasn't there an issue also of being able to use Chinese missiles and munitions? This would be a big deal for any country, but especially since, in the medium and long term, China can never be sure which way Russia will turn. Will Russia curtail supplies to China to reduce American pressure on it (as is going on with S300 delivery for Iran)? Will Russia-India relations improve to the point where it impacts on Russia-China relations? It is always better to be self-reliant on these things, even at the expense of being accused of "copying" or "stealing". In any case I am sure intelligent Russians understand this perfectly well, even though the screaming media prefers to be hysterical.
